Future Classic Women Awards – Aliki Chrysochou, My Kind Of Christmas

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Have yourself a merry little Christmas. Make the yule tide gay. From now on, all troubles will be miles away. Hear you, as in olden days, happy golden days of yore. Faithful friends who are dear to us, gather near to us once more. Through the years, we all will be together. If the fates allow, have a shining sleep on the highest roof. So hope yourself a Merry Little Christmas. May you rise in northern days, happy golden days of yore. Faithful friends who are dear to us, gather near to Once more, through the years, we all will be together. If the faith and love and the shining star are the highest goal, so hope yourself A Merry Little Christmas. No, how wonderful! Nothing better to start our Christmas episode with. Have yourself a Merry Little Christmas. Aliki, how are you? I am very well, thank you. Um, Lovely to be here with you again. Lovely to have you back. So we're in the second lockdown here in London. I mean, hopefully it's gonna finish in a couple of days. Where are you now? Well, I am still in Cyprus. Nice. I have not moved from here with the virus, and I think I was a bit worried to travel. Um, so We are also in kind of a second lockdown. All right. But I think measures are slowly, slowly today starting to just get a bit less than before. Wonderful. What we heard in background, the lovely voice of your son saying, "Mummy, I love you." So sweet. How old is your son? Well, the little one, Sebastian. He's 2 and a half. Oh gosh. Yeah. So, and I'm trying to hide somewhere in the house so I can talk to you so he can't see me. I don't think mommy can hide, isn't it? How hard it is to be a mother and an artist in the lockdown? I mean, double trouble. I think vocally it's one of my most challenging periods because we are together like 24 hours. Even when I'm sleeping, they come crawling in my bed. So vocally, it's, I think, the most stressed that my voice has been during this lockdown. I think for all artists really, and mommies in particular. Yeah, mommy, it's so important. Daddy too, but, you know, mommy. Of course. This morning my daughter was like, "Mommy, how are you always so fast in giving me breakfast?" I told her, why, you know, because I'm magic. She says, no, you're not magic. Like, oh, whatever, because I have the radio and you need to be very quiet. Yes, nothing we can do about it. But that's the joy as well, isn't it? Of course, of course. So how important is Christmas with the children? Do you feel it more than before? I've always— Christmas has always been probably my favorite time of the year. I mean, the magic of it and Santa Claus, and I don't know, it's— there's something magical happening around Christmas. And actually, my firstborn son, who was not scheduled then, he was born on the 25th of December. Wow! Oh my gosh. Yes, so it's even more special now because it's his birthday on that day. Which he will not thank me for in a few years because, you know, he'll understand that his birthday and Christmas are on the same day. Not very cool for him. But I have my uncle who was born on the 25th, and the main complaint he was telling me was the fact that people were giving the present to him only once per year instead of getting it twice. That'll be my son probably in a few years' time. It's a very special day anyway to be born, and also to have to go to the hospital on that day and give birth. I think it's— well, it was Christmas Eve, it was even more special. So he was born at 1 in the morning of Christmas Day. Wow. So Christmas is super special, especially for the children, to get everything excited for them. Now, in Cyprus, it doesn't really snow, does it? Well, it snows, but after Christmas, in January, in the mountains, of course, not around the sea area, but it does snow January, February. We have a lot of snow. So how did you, um, when did you record this wonderful new album? Um, I started recording the album— well, I started thinking about the album, I'd say May, June. This past year, and I went into the recording studio myself when the tracks were ready from the City of Prague Philharmonic Orchestra. I went to record end of August, which was quite challenging, I'd say, to do because it was superbly hot here in Cyprus, about 40 degrees, and here I am singing Let It Snow Snow. Exactly. I mean, it's incredible because it's in preparation for this wonderful moment of the year, isn't it? But the albums actually, they always have such a longer period of work and intense thinking that is way before the moment it's supposed to come out. So although the album is full of meanings for this special month of the year, it's something that you have to be in the mood for the previous 6 months or even more. Totally. I mean, I had to bring a Christmas tree in the studio. Oh wow. And I tried to wear long sleeves and put the air conditioning really, really, really cold. So I can, um, you know, yeah, I know, look like if it was Christmas. Try to, you know, when I'm singing Chestnuts Roasting on an Autumn Fire, then, you know. So you're not feeling more hot? It's a bit like when you see the models, uh, you know, taking the pictures for the spring season and they're doing that in full winter or vice versa. Totally. Yes, yes, just like that. Or if they have to wear their bikinis and it's freezing cold in this. Yes, I know, I can imagine. My second album I did, we went to do, it was the Trascendental Studies by Liszt. And so the photographer had the brilliant idea to take the picture, uh, on the cliff of Brighton that goes down all the way to the sea and is very, you know, um, give the idea of the transcendent and transcendent. And it was freezing cold because even if it was September, the wind from the, from the sea, it was just something unbelievable. So the first set of pictures, I looked horrifying, frozen, you know. So we managed to compromise. We went to a vintage shop and we found a vintage chuba, you know, the hat, and um, the top hat and a vintage fur neck, a fox fur neck. And so I had that to protect me a little bit. Plus it was raining, and luckily with the hat I didn't get the rain on my face. But you can see, if you make the picture very large, you can see the drop of the rain on the hat. So, oh well, it's a special moment that you will always remember, I'm sure. That's my favorite picture. I have it still on my WhatsApp and everyone says, oh, I like the picture. Like, well, yeah, that's a very special meaning. What, what's another challenging, uh, photo shoot that you might have done, or recording like in this case? Um, something so challenging. Yeah, well, I think You know, getting in the mood for something is quite challenging because it's something that's going to stay there forever, the mood that comes out. If somebody can't see you perform, all they have is the sound, and you really, really have to try— well, I hope I have actually— that you, you have to try to make them actually feel what you are singing. So I really, really needed to get into the mood of, you know, it's really Christmas time at the moment. Now I would like to ask you, um, among, you know, the album is a mix between a modern Christmas song, some of the biggest hits from the '40s and '50s that become classics basically, and some of the typical Christmas carols. So which one is your favorite Christmas carol? It's really Christmas carol. I think I'd say Adeste Fideles. I think I'd put that first as a Christmas carol, and Angels We Have Heard on High with the big, uh, big opening of Gloria. Um, I think I'd put those. All right, well, shall we listen to Adeste Fidelis then, in your version from your latest album, My Kind of Christmas? Surely, thank you. Beautiful! This was Adeste Fidelis, Sankt Baia Licki, from her latest album My Kind of Christmas. So tell us about the title of this album, My Kind of Christmas. How did you decide for this title? I think that this year it was actually hard to decide on the title But the reason why I chose that was I think Christmas is very— we've all been looking forward to Christmas this year, or everywhere in the world. Yeah, somehow, whether we believe in whatever we believe in, we believe whether you know, that is a strength that gives us something. And I think that Christmas was going to bring us even more together this year, very far apart from each other, but spiritually and inside us. And what I wanted to give was a gift to everyone, um, a part of what my kind of Christmas is, because I think we all have A very special kind of Christmas in our homes and in our hearts, and it applies to me and to everybody really, my kind of Christmas. Wonderful, wonderful. Well, you know, it's gonna be a very strange Christmas this year. Um, for the very first time I will be far away from my family, um, from my parents or my parents-in-law. And my daughter, for example, we had a holiday, the after holiday and no one was coming to visit, and we didn't go visit anyone. And so my daughter says, but then it's not a holiday. And so Christmas is gonna be, I think, particularly tough for her because her grandparents are all far from here. They are in Italy, they are in America. So not being able to travel and see them and really being just the three of us here in London is gonna be quite strange. Yeah, quite different, I'd say. Very internal for everybody, I think, this year Christmas will be. And I think, uh, let's hope that next Christmas we will all be able to actually be together. And I don't mean just sitting around the same table together, I mean to kiss and to hug and to embrace and to be able to be human around each other. I feel very strange, to be honest. Um, whenever I meet— if I see my mom, it has to be from far away, and it's— I think it's just beyond, really. It's very difficult. Yeah, well, they said this is the virus of, uh, separation, really. This is something that suddenly made us— all of us, we are very social, uh, human beings. We need the human contact, isn't it? We need to hug, we need to kiss. And not being able to do that, it's, um, double hard, particularly with the children. The children also, they can't— you cannot stop them, isn't it? It's, it's hard to, to keep them away and not, you know, letting them kiss grandma, for example, or hug their best friend. My daughter, she told me she was, um, she saw her best friend in the bathroom at school. They are now in bubbles. And she says, I know there is the germs, but I couldn't keep— we couldn't keep ourselves and we hugged. Oh, and that's so hard on them, isn't it? It's, um, it's— I'm impressed. I mean, the teacher has been phenomenal, the parents as well, you know, explaining the children that is for everyone's good, uh, the fact of being separated, of being in bubbles, etc. But it is very hard. I think Christmas, that is a moment of joy, a moment of reunion, a moment of being together. It's felt even harder. Well, I am actually— I have just recovered from the virus. Oh, wow. It's not something that I was sharing, but now that it's over, And this, this I think was the hardest part for me, that I couldn't hug and kiss my own children. Oh my gosh, that was, um, very difficult. And very difficult for them, for me to tell them, you can't touch mommy. It's just such a strange— very strange, terribly strange. It's natural. It's a natural— unnatural. Congratulations in recovering and being, you know, here with us talking about it. That's very special. You're the first one, um, that is telling us about this. And it's a moment now that every other person I know either had it or is having it. And it's really basically— it concerns everyone. You can't think, you know, it's not gonna happen to me, or it's not gonna happened to someone I know. For example, my daughter, from today she's home from school because in her bubble someone tested positive. So we're all here thinking, she's gonna get it, are we gonna get it? Um, the thing is it's so invisible. I mean, I'm very careful and I'm mostly home, um, and I have no idea where I caught it from. Absolutely no idea. So, um, it's just something that you don't know, and, uh, you just hope that you're going to— it won't be too bad, and that you haven't given it to, you know, your dad or your mummy or your grandfather or your nana. That was my main worry. Absolutely. Well, shall we listen to something joyful? Yes, let's! We really need your beautiful Joy to the World. Let's listen to it. Joy to the world, the Lord has come, let earth receive her King. Let heaven The baby grew, and heaven and nature sing, and heaven and nature sing, and heaven and heaven and nature sing. Joy to the world, the Savior reigns! Let every soul Oh fields and floods, oh fields and plains, repeat the sounding joy, repeat the sounding joy, repeat, repeat the sounding joy.— the world with truth and grace, and makes their nations prove the glories of his righteousness, and wonders of his love, and wonders of his love, and wonders, wonders of his love. So glorious. Joy to the World. I love this song, this Christmas carol. I love it too. It's just, it just brings you joy whenever you listen to it, doesn't it? Just gets you right up there where you're supposed to be. Absolutely. How, how was to record with the City of Prague Orchestra? Well, this was, it's It's absolutely wonderful collaborating with them again because they— I had collaborated with them with my first album, Reflections, so they were the first that came to my mind as soon as I said, yes, I'd love to do a Christmas album this year. So, um, it was so wonderful to work with them. They are great musicians. They work really fast, actually. And, um, yeah, they're phenomenal. And what was your earliest memory of singing this carol? This one, the Joy to the World, you're saying, for example? Yeah, or in general, up to you, I leave it open to you. Well, actually I, I do remember when me and my brother were really, really little. I have a brother, he is 4 years younger than me, so we were really little, just standing on the piano singing together Feliz Navidad. I remember that, that was my earliest, earliest, earliest that I remember. That's so funny. That's not really Christmas carol, isn't it? It's a Christmas something. It's a Christmas song. Silent Night would be the first, um, the first one I remember singing at school, uh, when I was probably about 6 or 7 years old. So that was a beautiful memory. I remember that song from— Absolutely. Well, I love the Christmas carol in general. I think what I remember, um, I of course singing in the choir at the conservatoire because I started very early. So at 7 already we were doing with the choir the Christmas carols concert and we would sing in Latin, you know, Adeste Fidelis and O Tenebrae, O Tenebrae. Oh, I love that one! Yes, yes, love that song! With me not understanding one word of what I was singing. I remember that too. Yes, but the music would just take you away, right? Even however little you were, to the music, you just listen to the music and that's what made you move and open your mouth. Totally. And if there is something that I remember very distinctly is the smell of Christmas, you know, the smell of the chestnut, the roasted chestnuts and the mulled wine and the Christmas tree. And there is some specific smells that somehow comes to me when when I hear these songs. Does that happen to you too? Yes, yes. Just by you saying this already, I'm closing my eyes and I'm having these smells, like the smell of cinnamon and orange and the smell of mulled wine. Yes, definitely. Hot pumpkin soup. Oh wow. And homemade Christmas cookies. Yes, I can smell all that. Or the tree, the pine tree. With the Christmas tree. Have you made your Christmas tree already? We have. I think we have. I think a lot of people that I know this year have decorated earlier than we would usually, because I think we wanted Christmas to come earlier this year somehow. Have you? No, not yet, because— not yet? No, because we like to have the real Christmas tree, and if it stays for too long in the house, then it's gonna die before Christmas. Oh, that's true. Yes, so we're waiting next week. With my mom, we only had the tradition of doing it for the Immaculata. I'm not sure how to say in English. Is the— is when Mary gets, I think, the angel, uh, telling her about— it's a bit too, too soon. I'm not sure— too late, I mean. I'm not sure exactly. Christmas is the 8th of December, so it's a festivity for the Holy Mary. And do you actually go out to collect your tree and choose the one you want. Absolutely, yes. I love that. Last year I did it with my daughter. My husband was working at home and it was the 8th, so I went to pick her up from school and then we went to buy the Christmas tree together. We passed by and Lucia, she just wanted to choose one and we got the biggest one. And then, and then we were coming back home, but you know, she goes to school nearby, so we go to school with the scooter, uh, and so we put the Christmas tree on top of the scooter. Oh dear! And we were carrying it home together. It was quite an adventure, I have to say. Oh, something that you will always remember, I'm sure. Future now is very special. Absolutely. So yes, so, and yesterday what we did very special. We went down to Farnham and Mason here in London, and we went to see all the Christmas decoration. We bought more Christmas decoration and fairy, and, and it's lovely. The big angels in Regent Street and Piccadilly decorated like they do, they always do. This year, have they done that? This year, yes, they did it. It was absolutely magical. Um, the only one that wasn't really decorated as usual was Carnaby Street. I was surprised. Carnaby Street has a beautiful display of decorations, and this year they only had some words with lights on it to talk about hope and being together. Um, who knows? But I think we, we need that as well. I mean, we need, we need the magic still. We need to believe that at least even if we're doing it alone in our house Uh, you know, I'm lucky I have my husband and my daughter. There is people that they have no one really, so it will be really just them alone. Um, but they— there is the music, there is the wonderful, you know, um, Christmas movies and Christmas programs, and that's something that somehow bring us together. I agree, I agree. Well, another song that I'd like to listen to is "Angel We Have Heard on High." This is another very special one. Um, do you have any special memory linked with this, um, Christmas carol? Um, I remember one of the times that was very special when I sang this song was when I just found out that I was pregnant with my baby number 2, and I was ready to go into concert that evening, and I was already 3 and a half months pregnant with him. So, but I didn't know yet. So it was, uh, that Gloria was very glorious that day because it was a very happy moment. Shocking because I wasn't expecting to be pregnant so soon again, but, uh, but that was something I'll remember. Well, let's listen to Angel We Have Heard on High, and then we will talk some more. So, Angel We Have Heard on High from My Kind of Christmas of Aliki. Newborn king. Beautiful, so joyful, so full of energy as well. How, how different it is to, to to sing knowing that you have a new life inside you? Something else gives you an extra energy, I think. It's almost like you have a full theater, but you're singing for this little thing inside you, right? Mm-hmm. It's, um, it's a very special feeling. I mean, I remember when I was pregnant with my daughter, you know, every— everyone tells you that there is so many movies, there is so many documentaries, there is of course your mom, there is all your friends telling you how it is when you are pregnant, when you're expecting, but no one can really in full describe what happens in your mind and in your body when actually you have a new life inside. Amore, I can hear it. It's such a special, such a special feeling, isn't it? It's a very special feeling, um, that you can only— I think you can, you can only truly understand it once you have, you have that, and once you are pregnant or you become a mummy. People can tell you how special it is, but I don't think you can perceive it, right, until it actually does happen. Yeah, I was, I was thinking the other day, I don't know why, I don't know, don't ask me, sometimes you get these, these ideas, and I was thinking, you know, the, the sentence that says, you know, the mother love, uh, it's special, it's actually unique, isn't it? It's the only love that is totally dedicated to your children, isn't it? It's, it's to another human being. There is no— it's unconditional. There is nothing that will ever temper the love that the mother has for their creature. It becomes, you know, it's— you get this miracle that is life, making life. Yes, that's— even if we are in the 2020, we have the most incredible technologies. And I was watching last last night, a program about magic. I love watching this thing. My husband is very passionate about this. They're just incredible. But there is, there is nothing more magical than when you actually make a new life out of love, isn't it? Yes, yes, yes. Out of your own flesh and blood. I think it's beyond, it's something beyond, uh, beyond us really. And I wonder, I mean, this, this, you know, people, if they're religious or not, but there is this message of Christmas that is about making the miracle about not necessarily if you don't believe in Jesus, but if you believe in any mother that is making a new child, no, that in in the human beings being humans, but even animals, to be honest. You know, the fact of having life continuing, this is the most incredible message of Christmas, I think. Yes, yes, you have said it. I couldn't have said that more beautifully than what you've just said. This is the message of Christmas. So the miracle. So let's hear a song dedicated to the mother of all from the Christmas season. That is the Ave Maria. Spiritus et benedictus et benedictus fructus ventris tui. Jesus. Oh, oh, oh. In or mortis, mortis nostrae. In or mortis nostrae. Mare. How beautiful! This was the Ave Maria by Aliki from her album My Kind of Christmas. Yes. Now, Aliki, there is two very famous version of the Ave Maria. One is the Ave Maria by Gounod and the other one is the Ave Maria by Schubert. Um, do you sing both? Do you prefer one of the two and the one, the version that we heard today, and why? Well, I, I don't think I I don't think I have a favorite, to be honest, because also my first album is the other Ave Maria in Reflections by Gacini. Yes. And I absolutely love that one also. So I couldn't have a Christmas album without an Ave Maria because it's just magical. And I think this one by Schubert is, is a must for my kind of Christmas. It's one of the ones that I will hear many, many, many times, especially during the Christmas holidays, by many different versions that I like. Now, you know, the Christmas songs that are on your album, there are so many and they're all so beautiful. I mean, there is, uh, we cannot listen to all of them. That is a pity because I like them all. For example, um, we're not listening to Let It Snow. We're now listening to, um, Silent Night today. Um, but so how, how did you choose these songs? I mean, how hard it is to choose one or the other when you have, for example, an interview like with us today? Actually, it was very difficult when I was gonna send you. I did have like two of them which I definitely wanted To Send, which we've played already, uh, and then one of the other ones that I— that is very contrasting, I don't know if you've heard it, is Santa Baby. Yeah, and that is with a full, like, um, big band sound. So it's very contrasting with the rest of the land. Yeah, joyful, very big, like very, um I don't know how to say it, very Michael Bublé kind of, yes, kind of orchestra sound. Um, there are just a few songs that if I have a— if I have Christmas concerts, I'd say they're the ones I choose first to perform. But there are so many. I think if I do a Christmas album, 20 20 songs would not be enough, so maybe I'll do another one next year for the rest of them. Absolutely, that's exactly what I was gonna ask you. Like, one of my favorites is The Twelve Days of Christmas. I love that song also, The Christmas Carol. Okay, well, please, we're gonna invite you back next Christmas for your second album. So, I mean, If we were in normal situations, I guess you would have been spending the Christmas holiday performing your album live to an audience. Well, luckily, if nothing changes, I mean, in Cyprus, because this is where I am now, Maestro is coming from Spain this Sunday. And we are going to have 5 or 6 concerts with the Cyprus Symphony Orchestra, and he is coming over to conduct with my— most of the songs are from my Christmas album. Wonderful. So I hope there will be changes. They would be with the live audience? It will be live audience and hopefully also online, but it's only 50% capacity in the theaters. Yes. Um, is this your first concert since lockdown, or you have been able to perform more? Because in Cyprus it's very good weather during the summer, we were— I was able to have a few concerts in August. Oh, again with open air, outdoors, and, um, very limited audience. Okay, well, you've been very lucky. I didn't have a chance to perform since the lockdown. And then as well, I mean, apart from some, um, recorded video that we've done with the friends in, uh, in remote via Zoom that you did during our episode. I remember the first interview we had was the 11th episode in lockdown, and you were telling us about the wonderful collaboration with the pianist, uh, with the song Over the Rainbow. Yes, with Oliver Poole. Yeah, who is also from England. And you know what, I think I will cherish those collaborations that we did because they were very, very special. They, they were something that I'd never done before, and I think we all just really, really wanted to, to have music even more in our lives then. Yes. And Yeah, absolutely. So what, what is your next project? Do you have more, um, recording projects? Or, for example, taking the time to record one album basically takes half a year, as it was. So, um, if you plan to make a new album, a new Christmas album for next Christmas, let's say you won't have space to record a different repertoire. Um, I definitely— there's another album in, in the plans. Um, I'm not sure when that will take place, maybe May or June. Uh, we can start thinking about that. Oh wow. Um, hopefully if things open up. I'm just worried to travel really, especially with the children. I don't want to get locked up in another country and not be able to return. That That is my fear of traveling abroad, you know. Uh, but I think we all look forward to that, to traveling and performing. Yeah. So everything— I mean, I do have things lined up for next year, but everything's just out in the open. Nothing is, I'd say, hardly certain. Mm-hmm. Well, awfully— I mean, we, we really We hope that this 2021 will bring an end to this, or, you know, an end to this isolation and bring us back through the vaccine or through any new technology that may be developed for medical technology to make us being able to cope with this virus. It's very important, you know, what you told us that you, you managed to go through it and you are back, you know, performing. That's absolutely wonderful. I think it must be particularly scary for singers that they have to use their lungs, for example, to know, um, to have to pass through an illness that it's specifically dangerous for it, isn't it? Well, I don't want to end this, uh, Sorry. Because I am, I'm a very positive person and I believe and I'm mostly happy most of the time, but it has affected my— I start rehearsals on the 11th of December and I must say I am worried. I am worried because that I didn't have a particular cough or sore throat, I did not have that, but my chest is very hard to— hard to breathe, hard to talk a lot, never mind sing a tune. I couldn't even sing a scale. Yeah. So because I would just be short of breath. So, but you know, if I may say, yes, I'll try and build it up until the 11th. I think as a singer you are particularly stronger you are more delicate but also stronger because you are used to really push your lung at the maximum for a concert, etc. So in a way, those muscles are very— are trained. And so they might— if I can give you silly, of course, out of point of view, uh, positive— you might manage to, to get back to being Well, thank goodness for muscle memory, right? Yes, exactly. They'll remember what to do by themselves. Absolutely. Well, so the next, the last song of today, and I wish we could hear more songs really, is the one, one of the most beautiful ones. They're all beautiful, but this is so special. It's the White Christmas. Shall we listen to it? One of my favorites. But listen. I'm dreaming of a white Christmas, just like the one I used to know, where the treetops glisten and children listen to hear sleigh bells in the snow. I'm dreaming of a white Christmas with Merry Christmas card I write. May your days be merry and bright. And may all your Christmases be white. I'm dreaming of a white Christmas. With every Christmas card I write, may your days be merry and bright. And may all your Christmas wishes come true. So beautiful. Did you watch the movie White Christmas? I did not. Oh, there is a wonderful movie with Bill Cosby. I can't remember exactly the title. I saw it actually a few days ago. Um, Bill Cosby and, um, Oh gosh, what's the other name? The other actor is the one who did all the magical movies. Uh, oh well, I can't remember the name, but beautiful, from the '40s. And, uh, and, uh, and this is one of the first memories of songs in English that I was singing when I was little. And it's so funny because it says Christmas is be white May all your Christmases be white. And I remember I wrote down the words. That was Christmas, and then sis be— I mean, it's nothing. How cute is that? Danny Kaye! Ah, thank you, Malice, our producer from the radio. Yes, that was Danny Kaye, another of the most wonderful actors. Oh, that, that shall be my movie this evening then, and I'll let you know how much I love it. Absolutely. And well, before we end, just the last question. We've got 1 minute left. What's your favorite Christmas movie ever? The one that you have to watch every time for Christmas, if you have one. Um, The Holiday. Okay, and, uh, what's the other one? Oh, oh dear, I forgot the name of it with Tom Hanks. What is that one? Uh, for Christmas with Tom Hanks with the train. Oh dear, my brain has stopped for this moment. Oh, you know what, let's ask our, our audience to write us and tell us, tag us on Future Classic Women Awards with Aline Aliki, your favorite Christmas movie and your favorite Christmas song. My favorite Christmas song, these are very, very difficult. Ah, there you go, uh, Melis again, thank you Melis, she says The Polar Express. Bravo! That's one of my other favorites, I love it. Well, thank you so much, Aliki, that's been such a wonderful episode. We talked about so many things and above all we listened to your wonderful music for Christmas. Thank you for having me and inviting me again. It's been wonderful and a pleasure. If you have any questions, and again, please send us your email with your favorite, or tweet us, or on Facebook on your favorite Christmas song and Christmas movie to presenters@womensradiostation.com, or on Twitter @WomensRadioSTN. You've been listening to Future Classic Men Awards on Women's Radio Station, live every day at 10 AM and 10 PM London time. And if you would like to listen to it again or catch up on our previous programs, you can head to my presenter page, Stefania Passamontes/Future Classic Women Awards on womensradiostation.com. Thank you, Aliki. Thank you, Melis, our producer. Thank you, Women's Radio Station. Thank you. Have yourselves a merry little Christmas. Merry Christmas to all. Bye. Bye-bye. Are you feeling anxious? Online Therapy 24/7 is here to help. We offer confidential support from the comfort of your own sofa. Our highly qualified therapists are experienced in a full range of daily challenges. You'll be in safe and trusted hands. Don't suffer alone. Change your life by calling us on 0207 553 5080 and check out our website onlinetherapy247.com.