Join host Stefania Passamonti as she welcomes the extraordinary Trio Sonorité to Future Classic Women Awards! This innovative ensemble breaks the mold of traditional chamber music by replacing the violin with a clarinet, creating a fresh and captivating sound. The trio—Aslı Çelik (clarinet), Daryl Giuliano (cello), and Yelena Makarova (piano)—share their fascinating origin story, from meeting at the academy in 2015 to officially forming as a trio in 2017. Despite their diverse backgrounds spanning Turkey, Canada, and Russia, they’ve found common ground in London’s vibrant international music scene.
The conversation explores the unique challenges and opportunities of performing unconventional repertoire. With limited traditional pieces written for clarinet-cello-piano combinations, the trio has embraced both classical masterworks like Beethoven and contemporary commissions, including works by Lithuanian minimalist Vytautas Germanavicius and Colin Riley. The ensemble shares insights into their debut album recording process, upcoming performances, and the importance of having professional recordings in today’s music industry. Listeners are treated to the beautiful Adagio from Beethoven’s Trio Op. 11, showcasing the distinctive balance and qualities each instrument brings to this remarkable ensemble.
Main Topics
Trio Sonorité uniquely features clarinet-cello-piano instead of the traditional violin-cello-piano combination
The trio was officially formed in 2017, though members met earlier at the academy in 2015
Members hail from diverse backgrounds: Turkey, Canada/Italy, and Russia, united by London's cosmopolitan music scene
Limited traditional repertoire exists for this instrument combination, so the trio actively commissions contemporary works
Their debut album is currently in production with performances including pieces by Beethoven, Brahms, and modern composers
Recording in the studio felt natural and joyful after extensive live performances before the session
An upcoming premiere performance of 'A Head on Sticks' by Colin Riley is scheduled for July 3rd at St. John's in Hampstead
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Hello and welcome to Future Classic Women Awards with me, Stefania Passamonti, on Women's Radio Station, the program where we search for the most amazing new female artists on the classical panorama. This morning on Future Classic Women Awards, we will be talking to The Fantastic Trio Sonorité. At the moment we only have Aslam Chalik, clarinet. Hello! And Yelena Makarova, piano. We're waiting for Daryl, uh, Daryl Giuliano, the cellist. She's stuck on the tube. Ah, this London transport! Last week we completely missed one of the guests, the female one, so we had the man in studio. At least today we got two women, so this is a Oh, wait a second, she's here! Let's let them in. Good morning! That's the beauty of being in live. So welcome here to Future Classical Women Awards, Daryl Giuliano, the cellist. Um, so, um, let's talk about this trio. Uh, Jelena, uh, how did the trio started? How did the three of you meet? Well, actually, I think Aslı and Darıl would be able to describe it better because, yes, we started playing together with Darıl at the academy when we were studying together. We started in 2015. All right. And actually, it was my dream combination as a clarinetist. I always wanted to play with this repertoire. And when I heard Darıl's playing, I fell in love. Yeah, thank you. And yeah, we first, we play with Carter. He was a duo partner of Daryl's from the America. And then we started playing through Talent Unlimited. Actually, I know Alberto Portugues, and we played for our first concert at Beethoven Piano Society concert. Oh, fantastic! Yes, where we met with Yelena, and I know actually Yelena through Talent Unlimited charity as well. All right, then. Yeah, it's— so since then we are playing together. So yes, I met Özlem first, and so it's kind of— we came naturally together, started playing, playing together, and actually found that it was working very well. And so we decided to set up as a trio. And this initiative was born. There is not very much repertoire for this ensemble, so normally the trio is made— the traditional one is violin, cello, and piano. So we're gonna listen to Beethoven, the trio, the Casanova. And is that the Ghost trio? No. Which one is it? This is Opus 11. Opus 11. All right, Opus 11. Okay, and so is there— was it difficult? Did you have pieces commissioned for you, for example, or— well, actually, what I can say that yes, as far as traditional repertoire goes, there isn't much choice. So there are Mozart, Brahms, Bruch, but yes, there's a lot of 20th and 21st century repertoire. And so yes, we already had commissions. We already performed trio by not very well-known here Lithuanian composer Germanavicius, Vytautas Germanavicius, Lithuanian minimalist. So we recently performed, and actually that went down very well with the audiences, and they really enjoyed it, which as we know, it's usually quite difficult to expose different repertoire to the audiences because they're used to your traditional trio as you know it. So it was very, very interesting and actually our recital is coming up on 3rd of July which is going to be in Hampstead at St. John's at Hampstead Church where we will premiere— it's actually not a premiere of the piece itself but it is a premiere of our combination. The piece is called A Head on Sticks by Colin Riley. Fantastic. So you decided to start our interview with the second movement, the adagio from the Beethoven Gassenhauer Trio for clarinet and cello. Why an adagio? If I can, I was going to say I think this movement really gets to showcase each of the instruments in a solo kind of way. We value this ensemble because it is so unique for the balance of each instrument and each instrument's qualities that it brings to this, and this really can showcase that. That's very nice. And this is from your first, your debut album that is coming out, isn't it? Yes, yes. So you just recorded it. Do you know when is that going to come to be published? We've got a few more pieces to record to put on that, but we, Looking forward to putting it all together. So no date yet? No date. Watch this space. Absolutely. Okay, very good. Then let's listen to Beethoven Trio for clarinet, cello, and piano, Op. 11, Case Noire, second movement, Adagio, with Ozlem Çelik, clarinet, Dario Giuliano, cello, and Jelena Makarova, piano. And this was the beautiful adagio from the trio Op. 11 by Beethoven with the fantastic trio We will be back after a short break. Welcome to Women's Radio Station. I'm Sarah Louise Ryan and welcome to Love Lessons Live on Women's Radio Station. Hello and welcome to Future Classic Women Awards with me, Stefania Passamonte, on Women's Radio Station. Hello and welcome to Julie May Is Listening. Hi, this is Anna Kennedy and we're at Women's Radio Station supporting women's well-being and we're talking all things autism. Women. The possibilities are endless. That's what makes us different. Hi, I'm Tracy Whedon of Brownhill Insurance Group. We are an award-winning family-run insurance broker covering a wide range of insurance products ranging from commercial lines to personal household, high net worth, and fine art. You can contact us on 0208 658 43 93. 034, or visit our website www.brownhillgroup.co.uk for your free, no-obligation quotation. At Brown Hills, we've got you covered. Hi, I'm Lauren Mishkon. I'm a birth doula and mum of 3, and I'm passionate about supporting women to have empowering and positive birth experiences. Please join me for my brand new show, From Tummy to Mummy, here on Women's Radio Station. Station. Every week I'll be here with an expert guest talking about women's reproductive health— everything fertility, pregnancy, birth, and baby related, right through to the menopause and beyond. Please join us for an informative and fun hour. Hi, I'm Hazel Butterfield, a blogger, book lover, and mental health advocate, and you can listen to my show Get Booked here at Women's Radio Station daily at 5 AM and 5 PM. Throughout my shows, we'll talk about the books I've read, new releases, chat to authors, publishers, and book enthusiasts, all with the theme and aim of supporting women's emotional well-being. If you have a book to tell us about, get in touch at presenters@womensradiostation.com. Join me on my show and share my love of books and writing. Hi, I'm Valentina Barbacci, and I'm the Executive Director of Media Matters for Women. We're a registered charity operating in Sierra Leone and the Democratic Republic of Congo. And we produce and share podcasts via Bluetooth on mobile phones, focusing specifically on women and girls excluded from information due to extreme poverty. We empower those living in rural areas with media that transforms how they access, own, and share information. To find out more and be part of this movement, come check out our website at mediamattersforwomen.org. You're listening to Women's Radio Station supporting women's well-being. Women's Radio Station's creating a global network for the empowerment of women, and we want you to be involved. Join us on Instagram and Twitter @WomensRadioStation, that's Women's Radio Station, or Facebook Women's Radio Station to keep up to date with all our exciting programs. Welcome back to Future Classic Women Awards on Women's Radio Station, the program where we search for the most amazing female artists on the classical panorama. Our guest today is the wonderful Trio Sonorité, wonderful because they are all the three very beautiful. We got Ozlem Çelik, clarinet, Ozlem, and Daryl Giuliano, cellist, and Jelena Makarova at the piano. Now, three names that definitely don't come from the same place, right? Yes, that's right. So you all met in London But where are you from, Yelena? Well, I'm Russian by my origin, but I lived in Baltics all my life, half of my life, sorry, which was Lithuania, the country Lithuania. So I arrived to the UK in 2000, and I'm a Londoner. All this time I lived in London. Fantastic. And you, Aslı? I'm from Turkey. Yeah, I'm from İzmir. Where is the west part of Turkey. And Darin, Giuliano is Italian surname, I might say. Yep, that's right. I do have Italian origins among many other things. I'm originally from Canada. I lived in the other London, actually. There's one in Ontario. Ah, fantastic. And then I moved to the States when I was 10 and started cello there, actually, when I was 12. I spent some time living in Paris for a couple of years and moved here almost 4 years ago. So it's starting to become home. That's a very strange London connection, isn't it? That's the beauty of London, what do you think? I mean, the fact that you can meet with artists from everywhere in the world. Well, yes, that's fantastic. London is so international and one of the— Cosmopolitan, yeah. Cosmopolitan, one of the biggest music centre, culture centres of the world. It's fantastic. Yeah, absolutely. So I wanted to ask you, so this is your first debut album, right? How difficult it was to be recording in the studio compared to performing live to a live audience? I have to say I was pleasantly surprised at how easily it went, actually. I think because we've been performing so much and we'd just done 2 live performances before the recording. So being in the studio felt quite natural and it was just a joy to play through, actually went through quite quickly, so a lot of fun. So when did the trio start actually? You didn't tell me that. When did you— yeah. The trio was formed, the three of us, in 2017, so 2 years ago, in this combination. So it's been a couple of years of good concerts. So what was the most exciting part? Place that you can think of? Well, actually, we really enjoyed performing in King's Lynn for King's Lynn Society of Music because as well as we had a really, really nice program, we performed Brahms trio and we actually had the combination of duo pieces we performed as well. So we really enjoyed the program because it was really varied and exciting. And so we performed the Beethoven trio there too, along with Brahms. It was a two-part concert. And we also had two pieces, piano and clarinet, Schumann's Three Romances, which we performed with Islam. Beautiful pieces. And we had a modern piece by Errolyn Wallen, Dervish, which we performed with Darrel. So the program was already very exciting in itself, and it was just absolutely absolutely beautiful venue, King's Lynn Town Hall. It's like a palace, and it was really fun because we actually were accepted very well, and they treated us for this most sumptuous, amazing meal before rehearsal and after rehearsal. So the waiting room was just fantastic. So very recommended. That's the important thing. Yes, that's the important thing. So what do you think, how important it is for your success, for launching the trio maybe, to have a CD? I think it's incredibly important. We get asked all the time, do you have recordings, do you have somewhere we can listen to you, and that sort of thing. So it's nice to have something, not only to give to people who are looking for that, but for us to have a record of of what we've done. Sometimes performing live is a wonderful experience, but your focus is quite different. So being able to sit back and enjoy it for ourselves is actually maybe a little selfish on my part, but I'm glad to be able to hear it. Yes. Yeah, that's the problem, isn't it? When you're performing, you are there on stage, but you don't really hear how it's coming out to the audience, isn't it? And that's something that they teach us when— since we are little, if you like, to record yourself and hear actually what's the product of your sound, because what you're producing there on stage is completely different from what comes at the end of the concert hall. And, um, okay, so the next trio that we're gonna listen to, the next track, is gonna be the first movement, the Allegro con Brio. Um, how challenging is Beethoven compared to to a contemporary piece, for example, in terms of the reception from the audience at the same time, or yourself when you start, when you approach this repertoire? I think there's two different sides to that. One for us as the working process. I'm laughing to myself because we have many arguments about Tempi. But it's a pleasure to work through, and so many intricate details and phrasing and things that can be explored. But the nice thing about it that leads to the audience is that it's approachable, it's pleasant, and it's the kind of phrasing that you're used to hearing. And this piece in particular is just so joyous that I think it's a really lovely piece for people to enjoy to hear. Then let's listen to Beethoven Trio for Clarinet, Cello, and Piano, Op. 11, Gassenhauer, first movement, Allegro con brio with trio sonorite. And this was Beethoven Trio for Clarinet, Op. 11, the Allegro con brio. With the Trio Sonorité. We will be back after a short break. Welcome to the Women's Radio Station, supporting women's well-being. Women's Radio Station is all about diversity, from opinions, career, ethnicity, education, and most importantly, women's well-being. We aim to celebrate the individuality of every woman everywhere, providing opportunities and the platform for your voice. Visit our website womensradiostation.com for more information. I'm Tamina Zaman, founder of Empower and Enrich. 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Women's Radio Station can give voice to your brand with a wide range of sponsorship opportunities, including individual programs. We can tailor your experience for you. For more information on how you can sponsor a show, go to womensradiostation.com. Women's Radio Station, supporting women's well-being. Welcome back to Future Classic Women Awards on Women's Radio Station. Today we're talking to the fantastic Trio Sonorité with Ozlem Çelik, clarinet, Deryk Juliano, cello, and Yelena Makarov at the piano. So we've been talking about recording, we've been talking about performing. I wanted to ask you, what do you think about classical music today? Today? Well, if I may say, actually classical music from the point of women. So I think it's very, very exciting times, not only women composers, also male composers too. But I think especially for women all across the world, there's a big women empowerment movement is going on. And more and more music by female composers is performed. And I think that gives musicians new opportunities as well. And being all— Women. —women trio, it's extra special for us. So that's a— we already performed Erlen Wallens' duet with Darrel, but we would like to explore more repertoire, in fact. We are in the area of music by female composers. And actually, so that's one area is very, very exciting, which is happening at the moment, I think. And because they're not only music by modern female composers, there's also a lot of music of 18th, 19th century female composers, which was long forgotten and overlooked. However, when we looked into repertoire for this combination, unfortunately there is not much stuff. So, but there is a beautiful trio, Opus 44, in E-flat major by Louis Farrand, French composer, which we will definitely include in our repertoire, and we are planning to perform it in our next season. So that's something. And also So we're— I think for musicians it's very important to keep with the times. And so we also very welcome collaborations with modern composers, male composers too. And so any Premiers, any composers out there who would like to write for a combination, please contact us, get in touch We will be very happy to perform that repertoire. We're already receiving repertoire from all sources. Wonderful, that's really— that's why we have this program as well, is to give more opportunities to upcoming artists. And one question, do you think it was easier to be 3 women working together than mixing up with men musicians? I have many different combinations in the ensembles with whom I work, and I don't actually find it easier or more difficult. I think it's lovely because we are really good friends, but to me it doesn't really make a difference. I think it's just a nice insight, I suppose, for our perspective, but in terms of working together, I don't really feel a difference. You would agree, yeah? Yes, definitely. That's beautiful to hear because we heard before of people that they had— women that they had problem working with male musician or— Well, I think sometimes, for example, maybe individually, I, for example, experienced— but that's not only for women. I think male performers may experience that too. There's sometimes ageism in classical music, which is a shame. I think, yes. So many concert promoters often prefer musicians in their early 20s, so there can be sometimes that issue, which I think— Really? So age is a problem? Yes, sometimes. I mean, yeah, I understand that with soloists. Chamber music, somehow I think it's a bit more protected, or maybe I'm wrong, but definitely, yeah, it is now a moment where everything is on Instagram and Facebook, and you need to look as beautiful as possible. And as to— I think it's a strange idea that maybe younger people would want to come more to concerts. What do you think? But I think it's silly. Yeah, I think it's quite silly. I will say the large majority of concertgoers that we see are over a certain age and are of a certain demographic, but again, I think that's about where you're playing and about the repertoire that you're playing. I've seen and invited many, many young friends and had even people I don't know of a variety of ages come. I think it's a myth. It comes from somewhere, but it's not entirely true. And so what would you say are the pros and cons of being a trio? Of women, if there is any? The pros? The benefits? As I think we mentioned already, as well as we perform and rehearse and record together, we're also very good friends. So, and that helps us a lot because actually we have that special connection, I think, and it's very nice when you can share your problems outside music as well and talk about it, and it just makes the whole situation more pleasant. And we, we like celebrating each other's birthdays, which we just did with our lovely Clarinette's birthday just passed. And we have to have a glass of wine sometimes and, and have a nice dinner, so we combine hard work with pleasure too, so, and it's lovely. So I think that's definitely an advantage for us. As for disadvantages, I wouldn't say there are many. Well, I was going to say, for better or for worse, being an all-female ensemble is a selling point, right? And I'm not exactly sure how I feel about that. Sure, it can get us gigs because I have had concert organizers request specifically all-female groups, which I think is sexist. Yeah, I'm glad you said it, not me. I won't mention names. So it gets us the concerts, but I think the focus there is definitely misguided. It should be about the performance and the quality of the performance. And sorry, when they ask you for an all-female group, they didn't ask you as well for a special outfit, did they? So this is radio, you can't see my face, but yes, yes, I have been requested to wear special outfits. Absolutely. I'm not talking burlesque outfits, but they will request the color of gown, or I've even had a concert organizer provide gowns that he— No way. Absolutely. Oh, wow. So yeah, so men, let's say the advantage of being a man is that, you know, there is little to choose. You just wear your tuxedo or the, you know, the black shirt, etc. But women, so that might be a con of being 3 women and like you have to match, you don't match, how do you do? Well, yes, that can be advantage and we happen to like fashion as well. So it's part of the fun to choose outfit for the concert. And of course it is so important nowadays because everything is It's so social media driven and visual, again, for better or for worse, we don't know. But the fact is that visual impact is very important in classical music today, and maybe it shouldn't be, but for better or for worse, it is. Artistically, I think it can be a great part that we can control and help to share with other people about who we are, as long as it's from us and our choice about what we're saying. Absolutely. Well, because sometimes people forget, but nowadays really being a classical musician is also very visual. It's very much like actors really, where you need to look at your best and have a specific— choose a specific image for yourself. It doesn't necessarily have to be the glamorous, beautiful one, but when you choose, you know, your image, in theory you stick to that. And also to create a certain type of audience. And that's something that didn't happen so much in the past, isn't it? Yes. And I think it is always nice for audience to have a sense of occasion when they come to the concert. So I think that part is also important, maybe dress codes. I absolutely agree. I mean, it's an opportunity to dress up, why not? All right, now let's listen to your next Bruckesbrück, the 8 pieces for clarinet, cello, and piano, Opus 83, No. 1, with trio sonorité. And this was Bruch, 8 pieces for clarinet, cello, and piano, Op. 73, No. 1, with the Trio Sonorité. We will be back after a short break. Welcome to Women's Radio Station. I'm Sarah Louise Ryan, and welcome to Love Lessons Live on Women's Radio Station. Hello and welcome to Future Classic Women Awards with me, Stefania Passamonte, on Women's Radio Station. Hello and welcome to Julie May Is Listening. Hi, this is Anna Kennedy, and we're at Women's Radio Station supporting women's well-being, and we're talking all things autism. Women, the possibilities are endless. That's what makes us different. Hi, I'm Tracy Whedon of Brownhill Insurance Group. We are an award-winning family-run insurance broker covering a wide range of insurance products ranging from commercial lines to personal household, high net worth, and fine art. You can contact us on 0208 658 4334 or visit our website www.brownhill.co.uk. Www.brownhillgroup.co.uk for your free, no-obligation quotation. At Brown Hills, we've got you covered. Hi, I'm Lauren Mishkon. I'm a birth doula and mum of 3, and I'm passionate about supporting women to have empowering and positive birth experiences. Please join me for my brand new show, From Tummy to Mummy, here on Women's Radio Station. Every week I'll be here with an expert guest talking about women's reproductive health— everything fertility, pregnancy, birth, and baby related, right through to the menopause and beyond. Please join us for an informative and fun hour. Hi, I'm Hazel Butterfield, a blogger, book lover, and mental health advocate, and you can listen to my show Get Booked here at Women's Radio Station daily at 5 AM and 5 PM. Throughout my shows, we'll talk about the books I've read new releases, chat to authors, publishers, and book enthusiasts, all with the theme and aim of supporting women's emotional well-being. If you have a book to tell us about, get in touch at presenters@womensradiostation.com. Join me on my show and share my love of books and writing. Hi, I'm Valentina Barbacci, and I'm the executive director of Media Matters for Women. We're a registered charity operating in Sierra Leone and the Democratic Republic of in Congo, and we produce and share podcasts via Bluetooth on mobile phones, focusing specifically on women and girls excluded from information due to extreme poverty. We empower those living in rural areas with media that transforms how they access, own, and share information. To find out more and be part of this movement, come check out our website at MediaMattersForWomen.org. You're listening to Women's Radio Station supporting women's well-being. Women's Radio Station's creating a global network for the empowerment of women, and we want you to be involved. Join us on Instagram and Twitter @WomensRadioStation, that's Women's Radio Station, or Facebook Women's Radio Station to keep up to date with all our exciting programs. Welcome back to Future Classic Women Awards on Women's Radio Station. Our guest, as you heard so far, is the Trio Sonorité with Aslam Çalek, clarinet, Derya Juliano, cello, and Yelena Makarova, the piano. Now we heard fantastic music, we talked about your wonderful career, and now it's time of the old questions. So do you have any strange hobby to free or relax to your mind, apart from music? I suppose it's related, but for me it's dancing. If I want to relax or have fun, it's always salsa or ballroom, anything. Oh, wow. Okay, very good. I do something calmer, actually. I do yoga or meditation. It really helps me to calm down. Yeah. Wonderful. And for me, I always when it gets too busy, I just need to take time out and go to nature. I very adore to go to the seaside, walking, or to nature, some natural environment. And I like swimming too. Ah, beautiful, beautiful. And do you have any ritual or superstition before going on stage? I suppose that's my meditation time, as I like to be quiet, just before I go on, but my superstitions, I suppose, is I obsessively check my cello case for my bow, I think about 40 times a day, every time I leave the space, just in case. Why, did you ever forget it? No, never forgotten it, just paranoid. Okay, wow, that's all. Maybe I should do that as well, because last time when we had the concert in St. Barnabas, I forgot about our encore, and I didn't get the music with me. Yeah. And of course it was A clarinet, which I took only my B-flat clarinet. And then we suddenly changed the encore piece and we found something in B-flat. And yeah, it was fun. So you didn't go with two clarinets, you only brought one? I just took with me the B-flat. Quite enough, but everything was okay. It worked out. And you, Jelena? I think I probably have a stranger superstition out of us all. I have this very strange thing about the keyboard has to be exactly aligned, so it has to be very, very straight, the keyboard of the piano. Oh, really? So I needed to— it's my little OCD. I think some concert promoters know already, so they just have to put piano in exactly aligned state. It can't be any diagonal sort of way. It's just my little thing. I just need to have it. Yeah, how many times the piano is moved, isn't it? So do you have any other funny moments in your career that you can recall? Because definitely forgetting the instrument for the concert is a problem. Well, I have a couple of moments. Well, one is Actually, not so funny, it's a little bit unfortunate. I injured my arm quite severely, I felt an injury just before the recital, and the recital was in Oxford, and it was next day, and it was for the charity. So I, and in my true stoic sort of Eastern European fashion, so when we go to stage in any circumstances unless we die, so I went ahead with the concert and I played with my very, very injured hand. That wasn't very clever thing to do, but I just felt that the concert is for the charity and it was very good cause for the food banks. And so I just, I sort of went on and played. And another funny moment is I felt, luckily not in front of the audience, but just as I turned into the backstage. Yeah. And I fell on a very tough concrete floor. On the floor. Oh my God! And it was just all that adrenaline, excitement. It was at the end of the performance. Luckily, none of the audience members saw, but it was quite painful. So what's your next collaboration or project apart from the CD coming out? Well, we have this recital coming up in Hampstead on 3rd of July at 1 PM, so everybody is welcome. We will perform premiere of Colin Riley by Heads on Sticks. But we also are very looking forward, we already did collaboration with them, it's a Baltic art form, and we will do more performances. So we will perform as a trio with the guest singer soprano Nina Copperhead from Sweden and a group of dancers. So it's a very multimedia performance. We already performed at the Pleasant Theatre. So that was last year, and a very successful performance supported by the Latvian Ministry of Culture. So we will do more performances, we are developing more projects with them, so watch this space. Absolutely. Well, now we are going to listen to our last piece, it's Milot, the Suite for Clarinet— oh my gosh, pardon— Milot Suite for Clarinet, Violin, and Piano. I'm going French, fourth movement. And this was Milot's Suite for Clarinet, Violin, and Piano, Op. 157, arranged by the cellist Derya Juliano, with Yelena Makarova at the piano and Ozlem Çelik at the clarinet. A big thanks to our guests for the great music and chat of today. You've been listening to Future Classic Women Awards on Women's Radio Station, live every day at 10 AM and 10 PM London time. If you would like to listen to it again or catch up on our previous program, you can head to my presenter page, Stefania Passamonte at /futureclassicwomenawards on womensradiostation.com. Thank you again, my dear girls. Thank you so much for having us. Thank you for listening. Welcome to the Women's Radio Station, supporting women's well-being. Women's Radio Station is all about diversity, from opinions, career, ethnicity, education, and most importantly, women's well-being. We aim to celebrate the individuality of every woman everywhere, providing opportunities and the platform for your voice. 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