All Things Autism – The Autism Plan.mp3
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Speaker 15
00:01 – 00:14
Hello, this is Anna Kennedy at Women’s Radio Station, talking all things autism, voice of women worldwide. And we’re here today with the founders of The Autism Plan. Welcome, Nicola and Anna. Thank you, Anna, lovely to be here.

Speaker 15
00:14 – 00:17
Yeah, you’ve come all the way from? Kent.

Speaker 6
00:17 – 00:18
Kent.

Speaker 15
00:18 – 00:28
So not too far, not too far for us today. Okay, so first of all, before we talk about The Autism Plan, I believe that you are a mum on the autism spectrum.

Speaker 6
00:28 – 00:28
Yes.

Speaker 15
00:29 – 00:31
So tell me a little bit about your journey.

Speaker 6
00:31 – 01:13
So my daughter Ellie is 11 and she was quite recently diagnosed actually, which was an interesting experience for us and really part of the reason why we’re doing the work that we’re doing. How long did it take for the diagnosis? We actually had her diagnosed privately and one of the reasons that we chose to do that is because you might look at Ellie and you think how could she possibly be autistic. So I actually didn’t have confidence that if we’d gone down perhaps the usual GP referral route that there would have been enough understanding about what to look for to even make a successful referral.

Speaker 15
01:13 – 01:20
So what were the markers for you then? Why do you think that you went down that route? So how did you notice that maybe differences within your daughter?

Speaker 6
01:21 – 01:53
I think certainly the rigidity of thinking, the needing to have control, predictability. We went through lots of meltdowns, lots of evenings of crying and not able to cope with the day, demands of the day, social awkwardness, difficulty in relating to peers. a lot of obsessional focused behaviour. Right, and how did she do at school?

Speaker 6
01:54 – 01:54
Brilliantly.

Speaker 15
01:54 – 02:09
Okay, so obviously she was coping at school and then she had to let off her frustration somewhere so she did it in a safe place with mum. Absolutely. Okay, so the autism plan. Tell me a little bit about why you set it up.

Speaker 15
02:09 – 02:28
So I’m reading here that it’s setting up the world’s first global online autism support platform offering instant online awareness courses, support network for autism families and one-to-one support with autism consultants. So I believe you are setting up something like this because it’s something that you would have wished that you’d known about when your child was diagnosed.

Speaker 6
02:28 – 02:52
Yeah, absolutely. So what we’ve actually set up, Anna, is two parts of a business. So the first is online accessible courses and the first course we’ve put together is autism, everything we wish we’d known. So as parents of children with autism, we wanted to put together everything we wish we’d known when our children were diagnosed.

Speaker 6
02:52 – 03:05
So that’s one half of what we’re doing. And then we have another half of the business which is one-to-one autism consultants. So support for families, carers, people that just need that extra bit of hand-holding, guidance and advice.

Speaker 15
03:06 – 03:09
Okay, over to you Anna. So what’s your role within the autism plan?

Speaker 14
03:09 – 03:28
Well, in terms of my background, I’m a qualified speech and language therapist, but I spent a long time working at the National Autistic Society managing the autism helpline. And it was really, really apparent the massive gaps that parents had after there was a diagnosis. So was the line busy? Was it a busy, busy line?

Speaker 14
03:28 – 03:45
Oh yeah. Very, very busy. I think it’s a wonderful charity but it’s, you know, in terms of getting through to the charity it can be quite hard for parents. So from my point of view it was, you know, just every day speaking to parents thinking there’s such a massive gap and they’re not getting the support that they need.

Speaker 14
03:46 – 03:53
So, you know, that’s kind of where I came from in terms of thinking, right, you know, we’ve got to do something to try and fill this gap.

Speaker 15
03:53 – 03:56
Can I ask what sort of questions they were ringing up with, like primarily?

Speaker 14
03:56 – 04:15
So many questions. I think probably the main questions were around how to get a diagnosis and the struggles around that. Close second would probably be around behaviours, you know, concerns at home, how to deal with certain things. and general just support, you know, where do we get support from?

Speaker 14
04:15 – 04:39
So I think it can be so overwhelming for parents to read online lots of things and think some of the information contradicts itself and it’s, you know, so much information that they don’t know what, you know, what to kind of use and not use. So it’s, you know, it leaves parents in a, you know, kind of daunting kind of situation. So, you know, that’s where for us the autism plan is there to kind of help.

Speaker 15
04:39 – 05:00
Can I just ask for people who are listening, so as a speech and language therapist, what sort of things would you do with a child that was diagnosed with autism? Because I have spoken to some parents that obviously, you know, they’re starting their journey and they say, well, my son and daughter can speak. So what can a speech and language therapist do to support them? So for those that are listening, what sort of things can you do?

Speaker 14
05:01 – 05:35
So I think when I worked as a speech and language therapist in a school, and it was very much working with children who had an autism diagnosis, the main thing was just essentially getting them functional communication skills, you know, enabling them to get their message across. And I think sometimes parents can focus on, you know, I want them to be able to say the alphabet, I want them to kind of say please and thank yous, but actually You know that the main things you want is for them to be able to get their message across and and and for somebody to Understand them and for them to understand them. So, you know, it’s it’s about just enabling that.

Speaker 14
05:36 – 05:56
Yeah You know focusing on the on the communication and what their needs are so that a lot of stuff that we would do would be around making sure there was visual supports for them to support that. So PECS, which is Picture Exchange Communication Systems. We’d use a lot of Makatons to support that. So, yeah, I mean there’s lots of things that parents can do.

Speaker 14
05:57 – 06:02
I think try not to say too many words is a really good tip.

Speaker 15
06:02 – 06:15
Yeah, because they find it difficult to process the information. The longer the sentence, the more it goes over the top of their head. And I know with Angelo, obviously, he had speech, but he lost it all. It was almost like someone came and took everything away from Angelo.

Speaker 15
06:15 – 06:49
So with him, what I used to do, which was the advice of portage, which was the only decent support that I got when my sons were younger, was that when you go to the park and he goes to his favourite swing, take a picture of the swing, write the word swing. So I built up this little album of like Rupert the Bear, The Ball, his favorite custard creams, whatever it was. And I used to show him the picture and then repeat the word and then he would start repeating it, even if it was just the first vowel or the first whatever it was, but it was trying to, you know, help him, because that was the frustration he would

Speaker 15
06:49 – 07:02
have, because obviously he was trying to communicate with me, but it was just mainly his language I would say was probably echolalic. So for somebody who was listening, could you explain as well what echolalic means?

Speaker 14
07:02 – 07:21
It’s where they repeat certain sounds and phrases quite often. Sometimes they can do that in situations where they don’t always know what to say. So that would be quite a good sign for a parent to think right okay in this situation what can we do to support them with what they might need to get across. So visual supports are great things.

Speaker 15
07:21 – 07:36
Okay so the autism plan Nicola, so say for example a parent was interested, I believe it’s going to be launching very soon so we can share information if anyone’s interested, what could you offer a parent that might be just starting on the journey and thinking right what do I do?

Speaker 6
07:36 – 08:09
Okay. Well, I think the thing is, Anna, the first thing is although we’ve geared the course for parents and carers who have a diagnosis, who child has a diagnosis of autism, what we’ve put together is information, support, advice, all of our experience that would equally apply for parents that are maybe thinking about going through the diagnostic process because it can take sometimes, you know, years to get that diagnosis. or even parents who think that their child might be autistic and are just starting to explore that.

Speaker 6
08:10 – 08:24
But in terms of what we’ve put together, we’ve covered, well, everything that we would have liked to have known about, which includes also self-care for the parent and lots of behavioural strategies, a whole heap of stuff.

Speaker 15
08:25 – 08:29
Okay, so how can listeners find out more, Anna, about the Autumn Plan?

Speaker 14
08:29 – 08:50
So for one-to-one support they would need to go to our website which is www.myautismplan.co.uk and for the online support plans it would be www.autismplan.co.uk and we also do a lot on Facebook, Instagram and on Twitter.

Speaker 15
08:50 – 09:41
Social media is great, it can be a negative but I find it’s a real positive and like you almost build a virtual autism community if you like where parents who do feel isolated can chat to somebody and if you don’t know the answer there’s somebody out there that can help you and point you in the right direction because I was just saying we’re having a chat upstairs and people tend to think I know everything where everything is across the United Kingdom I just couldn’t possibly so when people do ask me and if I don’t know that there’s nothing wrong with saying I don’t know but I’ll find the answer out for you so it’s about supporting each other and I think Facebook’s great about sharing things that progress you know that your child’s made and sharing photographs and what have you and it’s just a great way of like so say for example my son is very rigid and the things that he eats what can I do to try and help him so parents can come together and share what’s you know worked for them what hasn’t worked for them so that’s what I

Speaker 15
09:41 – 09:55
like about Facebook. Twitter I would say is great for networking I’ve met so many people and organisations that want to support what you do with, you know, because of the charity. So and then you’ve got Instagram, which is great. Again, that’s instant information sharing.

Speaker 15
09:55 – 09:59
So you can find the autism plan on all those three platforms.

Speaker 6
09:59 – 09:59
Yes, you can.

Speaker 15
09:59 – 09:59
Great.

Speaker 6
09:59 – 10:12
And when are you going to be launching? Any day now, so the course is literally being put together now, the editing’s all being done, so I think within the next week we will be able to share all of our experience.

Speaker 15
10:12 – 10:17
So you’re talking about a course, so how long is the course or is it something that you can build on?

Speaker 6
10:17 – 10:35
Yes, so the course is immediately downloadable and that was really important for us because what we didn’t want is for parents to have to start trawling through the internet, books, magazines, all that kind of thing. So everything is immediately downloadable but we would say it will take time to work through. Because we’ve covered a lot there.

Speaker 15
10:35 – 10:39
And you’re there to support them if there’s things that they’re looking or reading that they don’t quite understand.

Speaker 6
10:39 – 10:52
Yes, so we’ve got a team of autism consultants really experienced at supporting families and carers that can support anybody on their journey. So if there’s anything that comes up in the course that they want a little bit more information about, we’re there to help.

Speaker 15
10:52 – 10:55
So Anna, if you’re a professional, could you do the course or is it just for parents?

Speaker 14
10:55 – 11:22
Well, we’re starting off with a course for parents, but absolutely our aim is to develop lots of new support plans for others out there, certainly professionals. OK, that’s great. So if you’re interested, remind me of the website. So it’s www.autismplan.co.uk for the online course and www.myautismplan.co.uk for the one to one.

Speaker 15
11:22 – 11:47
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14:58 – 15:12
This is Anna Kennedy at Women’s Radio Station talking all things autism, voice of women worldwide. And we’re back talking to Nicola. And I have a new guest with me today, which is Deborah Brownson, who’s also part of the support plan. Hello girls again.

Speaker 15
15:13 – 15:20
Hello. So Deborah, tell me a little bit about why you want to get involved in the autism plan. And I believe you have two sons who are autistic. I do.

Speaker 7
15:20 – 15:41
I have two sons, Joshua and Jacob, one 12, one 16. Both have diagnosis of Asperger’s syndrome and a few other things as well, ADHD, sleep disorders, things like that. So I’ve been around autism now for 16 years. Nicola contacted me in the summer.

Speaker 7
15:41 – 16:06
and asked me if I would do some consultancy work as she was setting up the autism plan. So I came to London with my son, Josh, brought my son to the meeting like I do, and we hit it off straight away. I’d been, in the back of my mind it was something that I wanted to see happen, but I just didn’t have the time to do it myself. So it just seemed like everything was aligning that we should work together.

Speaker 7
16:06 – 16:19
We’ve got very quite similar backgrounds, lots of similarities. So rather than just being a consultant, I wanted to be fully involved. So that’s how I ended up being a director of both. Well, that’s great.

Speaker 7
16:19 – 16:20
So it’s an exciting project.

Speaker 15
16:20 – 16:26
So what do you hope to achieve with the autism plan as in your role? What do you hope to achieve? What do you want to get from it?

Speaker 7
16:26 – 16:49
Well the thing that I’m really passionate about is changing the perception of autism. I think when my sons were diagnosed especially, it was really negative being told that your son was autistic. You get signposted to charity websites and they talk about disability and triad of impairments. And I just found it really negative and quite daunting.

Speaker 15
16:49 – 16:51
The whole process is daunting.

Speaker 7
16:51 – 16:57
Yeah, well it took me two years for each of my children to be diagnosed. I was going to ask how long it took. Two years. Which area do you live?

Speaker 7
16:58 – 17:10
In Cumbria. Okay. So the services there aren’t the best and it is a postcode lottery and unfortunately we’re not at the top of that pile at all. It was a really difficult time to go through it with two children.

Speaker 7
17:10 – 17:22
And I just found that when we got to the diagnosis point, it was like, right, it’s taken all this time to get here, I’m going to finally get some help. And all we got was a label. Yeah. And then just told.

Speaker 7
17:22 – 17:43
Yeah, it’s just like, there you go, on your way, shut the door on the way out. And I just thought, I thought it was appalling that you were told something life changing. And at the time with Jacob we were having a real struggle with him, just day-to-day general things. And to be told, right, that’s it, you’re going to get no help, on you go, I was just gobsmacked that you could just be left in that position.

Speaker 7
17:44 – 18:13
So that’s why 15 years ago I started, you know, trying to change the perception of autism because I thought if you start off and you realize that it’s not that big of a deal. Yes, it’s just a brain difference, a difference in the way that the brain is wired. With the right support and help they can achieve things, they can communicate, they can go to school, they can make friends, they can work, they can get married. But if you start off thinking that it’s all doom and gloom and they’re never going to achieve any of those things, then the chances are they probably won’t.

Speaker 7
18:13 – 18:25
So that’s been my biggest mission through everything that I’ve done, is to change the perception of autism. So how are your boys doing now? What are they doing now? They’re doing wonderfully, yeah.

Speaker 7
18:25 – 18:47
My eldest is 16, he passed every one of his GCSEs, he’s living away in the week in Manchester, two hours away from where we live, studying music production at college. He’s found his passion which is DJing. I’ve got my youngest son who I was told was unteachable in mainstream school. He passed all his SATs.

Speaker 7
18:48 – 19:05
He’s now in mainstream school at age level expectations. He does struggle a lot because his autism is a lot more severe than my eldest son. He has a lot of sensory issues that he has to overcome to learn. But both children are happy, they’re thriving.

Speaker 7
19:05 – 19:15
and whatever challenges they do meet we face them together positively and I certainly won’t let autism stop them achieving everything that they want to achieve.

Speaker 15
19:15 – 19:47
Yeah I think the thing is with us parents we’ve just got to speak up for them really haven’t we? We do. Obviously the children and adults who are autistic they’re all so different from each other so you have got like my son Angelo that is always going to need one-to-one support for the rest of his life and we’re just working on independent living skills. But there’s a lot of scary stuff out there and I know we’re trying to change perceptions and like particularly today obviously Sky News are sharing the horrendous information about what’s happening in ATUs and you know people going to social services for support and then they’re ending up in

Speaker 15
19:47 – 19:54
these horrendous places and they’re only supposed to be there for a few months and then this gentleman’s been in there for 20 years and it’s like

Speaker 7
19:54 – 19:56
Why? 200 miles away from his family.

Speaker 15
19:56 – 20:31
I know it’s just like why these are the sort of things that you know people are coming to us with the charity and it’s just so frustrating. So you know parents like us that’s what we’re trying to do we’re trying to make a difference we’re trying to pave the way for our children and also it’s worrying as well because obviously you’re thinking when you’re dead and gone who’s going to be keeping an eye out for our boys So creating something like the autism plan is going to be there hopefully after we’ve gone and parents are going to be able to access that information. So both of you are working together, so where can you see the autism plan in 10 years time?

Speaker 15
20:31 – 20:33
Got any ideas? Or what would you like to achieve?

Speaker 6
20:34 – 21:03
Well we, I mean our mission is to change the global perception of autism. So you know full stop that’s what we want to do because it’s a spectrum you know, Debs’s boys will look very different from my daughter and you know, your two boys and so it’s about recognizing that that spectrum brings so much diversity and difference and That’s all amazing. So we want to share that. We want to share the positives.

Speaker 6
21:03 – 21:18
And that’s not to say that there aren’t challenges and that there are tough days and there are some things that are more difficult than other things. We’re not saying it’s all, you know, rose-tinted glasses and it’s all easy. But what we’re saying is look for those positives, look for the differences. celebrate those.

Speaker 15
21:18 – 21:49
Yeah I think the thing for me is like early diagnosis you know parents are waiting up to five years to get a diagnosis depending on where you live. Early intervention is crucial and we keep saying that over and over again maybe a lot of these adults that are in the ATUs might not have been in the ATUs if they’d had early intervention when they were younger that’s what we’re trying to do. I’ve seen so many kids that have come to the school that have come to us quite young and the difference in them now in secondary school so it’s working with them as young as we possibly can and And it has a knock-on effect on the whole family, doesn’t it?

Speaker 15
21:50 – 22:14
So siblings that are not affected by autism, it’s, you know, it has a… I know one family in particular where they have twins and the sibling is just finding it so difficult now that she’s actually going to live with the nana. And it’s because of the whole impact of the whole family. So what we’re just saying is that, you know, we’re not second-class citizens, our children are not second-class citizens, give us some support.

Speaker 15
22:14 – 22:37
And try not to make the whole process so complicated. You need a degree, don’t you, in half of these things, like filling out the PIP assessment form, and, you know, it used to be the Disability Living Allowance form and PIP. And so many parents as well are going to social services. I know there’s a lot of great social workers out there, but this is what I’m hearing more and more of, that they’re going to ask for help and then their kids have been taken away from them.

Speaker 15
22:38 – 22:44
And it’s just like, they’re asking for help, so help them. That’s what they’re asking for. They’re not asking for you to take their children away from them.

Speaker 7
22:44 – 23:00
And then it puts other families who do need help, asking for that help. And that was on my mind when I was younger. I didn’t want someone coming in with a clipboard thinking this woman can’t cope with these two children with these needs. So I just was silent and I just managed on my own when really I could have done with some help.

Speaker 7
23:01 – 23:08
So these stories, although they need to be told at the same time, people need somewhere to come, which is another reason why we’ve done this.

Speaker 15
23:08 – 23:11
And what also helps is just making small, reasonable adjustments.

Speaker 7
23:12 – 23:14
And practical stuff, a lot of the time it’s just practical.

Speaker 6
23:14 – 23:26
It’s common sense as well, isn’t it? But if you don’t know, you don’t know. Exactly. So the benefit of other parents sharing their experiences and trying new things, I think that can make a massive, massive difference.

Speaker 15
23:26 – 24:08
Yeah I’m working with NHS in Liverpool and there’s a lot of students that want to go to university and they find it quite difficult so they’re setting up a pilot project so I’m working with them and we’re going to do the first pilot project where it’s going to be a deal purely for 16 to 18 year olds that are autistic that want to go to university and if this works really really well because I’ve been speaking to Victoria who’s going to be one of my guests in the future and she said there’s so many jobs out there that would fit our autistic adults so we’re hoping that this is going to work really well and then we can roll it out across the country and give hope because our kids just want to have a decent education, they want to get married, they want to have a house, they just want the same things as everybody else and why shouldn’t they?

Speaker 15
24:08 – 24:11
Definitely. That’s what you want for your boys, isn’t it Debra?

Speaker 14
24:11 – 24:12
And that’s what you want for your daughter.

Speaker 15
24:12 – 24:16
Yeah. Yeah. So, right. So let’s just remind everybody about the autism plan.

Speaker 15
24:17 – 24:21
Remind me about the website and where people can find out more information.

Speaker 6
24:21 – 24:44
So website for the online course is www.autismplan.co.uk and for the one-to-one support with our consultants, it’s www.myautismplan.co.uk. We do lots on Facebook, so we share lots of tips, advice, support, information on our Facebook page as well, so you can find us there.

Speaker 15
24:44 – 24:46
So is it the Autism Plan on the Facebook page?

Speaker 6
24:46 – 24:55
Yes, and some wonderful videos from Ellie. Yeah, my daughter’s done some videos and they’re just sharing her experience. How old is Ellie? She’s 11.

Speaker 6
24:55 – 24:59
Yeah, and we’re on Instagram as well, and find us there.

Speaker 15
25:00 – 25:11
Find and share. I’m really excited to, you know, check out the Autism Plan and see how you, and maybe in a year’s time or something, you can come along and let me know how you’re getting on. We’d love to. Just let me know.

Speaker 15
25:12 – 25:18
And also, Deborah, I’m going to be interviewing you in another radio station, so you’re going to talk to me a little bit about He’s Not Naughty.

Speaker 7
25:18 – 25:26
I am going to do, yeah. There has been times where I’ve had quite that tattooed across my forehead going into school, so it seemed like the obvious title.

Speaker 15
25:26 – 25:31
Yeah, I think the thing is with our kids, they can be naughty, you know, they’re children aren’t they?

Speaker 7
25:31 – 25:51
But it’s just that obviously they have autism. I think it’s knowing the difference between a child who is willfully not choosing to follow an instruction and one who is unable. And I think with a lot of sensory kids there is that difference and not all teachers, teaching assistants are able to spot that. And I think it’s a really important distinction to make.

Speaker 7
25:51 – 26:01
So yeah, I do have a few people saying, you know, obviously autistic children, and of course they are. I do test my patients on a daily basis, but it’s just knowing the difference.

Speaker 15
26:02 – 26:08
Okay, so if you were to say to somebody who’s on the journey, what one piece of advice would you give them, Deborah?

Speaker 7
26:08 – 26:21
You are the expert in your child. So if a teacher or doctor or anyone tries to tell you something that you don’t think is going to work with your child, then stand up and make sure that you fight for what you think is right.

Speaker 6
26:22 – 26:25
And you, Nicola, quickly? Positive mindset. Start with a positive mindset.

Speaker 15
26:25 – 26:53
Okay, great advice. So, we’re at Women’s Radio Station Voice of Women Worldwide. If you’d like to be one of my guests on Women’s Radio Station, please contact the radio station and we can book you in and we can talk about all things autism. Again, if you want to look at our charity website, it’s www.annakennedyonline and if you’d like to ring the office, it’s 01895 540187.

Speaker 15
26:53 – 27:00
So thank you girls and safe journey back and goodbye everyone. You’re listening to Women’s Radio Station.

Speaker 5
27:00 – 27:04
Welcome to Women’s Radio Station, the voice of women worldwide.

Speaker 4
27:05 – 27:13
Hungry? An average woman eats about two to three kilos of lipstick in her lifetime. Women’s Radio Station, we want to hear from you.

Speaker 9
27:13 – 27:18
This is Women’s Radio Station. You’re listening to Avril Price with Kitchen Sink Spirituality.

Speaker 15
27:18 – 27:23
It’s Anna Kennedy talking all things autism and my guest today is Karen Nunn.

Speaker 7
27:23 – 27:24
I listen to Women’s Radio Station.

Speaker 5
27:25 – 27:30
Women. The possibilities are endless. That’s what makes us different.

Speaker 1
27:30 – 28:00
Hi, I’m Valentina Barbaci, and I’m the Executive Director of Media Matters for Women. We’re a registered charity operating in Sierra Leone and the Democratic Republic of Congo, and we produce and share podcasts via Bluetooth on mobile phones, focusing specifically on women and girls excluded from information due to extreme poverty. We empower those living in rural areas with media that transforms how they access, own, and share information. To find out more and be part of this movement, come check out our website at mediamattersforwomen.org.

Speaker 5
28:05 – 28:24
Women’s Radio Station is passionate about communication and we’d love any thoughts and feedback on our programs. Email presenters at womensradiostation.com If there’s a topic you’d like to hear about or want to contact your favorite presenter, do get in touch.

Speaker 9
28:25 – 28:29
WRS, Women’s Radio Station, voice of women worldwide.

Speaker 2
28:32 – 28:46
Are you struggling with money? Turn to Us is a national charity helping people struggling to make ends meet. Job loss, illness or bereavement can cause a real financial crisis. We give practical help to get people back on track.

Speaker 2
28:47 – 29:00
Whether you’re thinking of having a baby, trying to get out of an unhappy relationship or just unsure what benefits you may be entitled to, we can help. Visit turntous.org.uk

Speaker 5
29:02 – 29:21
Let me tell you about German Street Theatre. This is a secret theatre in the heart of the West End, once found, never forgotten. This is where careers ignite, where playwrights take risks, where great actors perform just feet away from the audience. This is where magic happens.

Speaker 5
29:22 – 29:52
We would love you to join our mailing list or become a sponsor or just buy a ticket to one of our shows. The website is www.germanstreettheatre.co.uk Women’s Radio Station is a not-for-profit community interest company. Supporting women is our passion. We’re currently welcoming donations to help towards our running costs to keep this important initiative alive.

Speaker 5
29:52 – 29:58
To donate, simply head to our website. Every little will help.