Join host Stefania Passamonti on this inspiring episode of Future Classic Women Awards as she speaks with Braxi Music, the award-winning rock opera vocal duo comprised of married couple Brandy and Max Himmelreich. With over 20 years of combined experience in the entertainment industry, this international duo discusses how they bridge the gap between classical opera and modern rock music, breaking down the barriers that traditionally segregate musical genres. They share their journey from winning Holland’s Got Talent and the Dutch Pop Stars competition to relocating to London, where they found a more receptive audience for their innovative sound.
Brandy, originally from America, and Max, classically trained in Holland, reveal how they discovered their unique chemistry both on and off stage. The couple discusses their songwriting process, which often happens late at night after gigs, and shares how they craft compositions that blend opera’s classical lines with contemporary pop and rock elements. Their award-winning original composition “Il Nostro Amore” exemplifies their ability to fuse languages and musical styles, drawing inspiration from artists like Coldplay and Andrea Bocelli while creating something entirely their own.
Throughout the conversation, Brandy and Max challenge the notion that music needs to be confined to boxes, arguing that the greatest composers—from Queen to Jim Steinman—have always blended orchestral and symphonic elements with contemporary sounds. They advocate for a universal language of music that transcends genre labels and resonates with audiences ready to embrace something different and refreshingly innovative.
Main Topics
Braxi Music is an international award-winning rock opera vocal duo composed of married couple Brandy and Max Himmelreich with 20+ years combined experience
The duo won Holland's Got Talent and the Dutch Pop Stars competition, landing a recording contract with Warner Music Benelux
Brandy received classical and musical theater training in the US, while Max developed his classical technique through formal drama school training and vocal lessons with a Royal Conservatory baritone teacher
They met in a dinner theater in the Netherlands where their boss paired them to sing a crossover song, and they discovered immediate vocal and personal chemistry
Their songwriting process involves writing original compositions that blend operatic classical lines with contemporary pop and rock elements, often created late at night after performances
Their award-winning song "Il Nostro Amore" won best song in the unsigned only category at the UK Songwriting Contest, incorporating Italian and English lyrics inspired by artists like Coldplay and Andrea Bocelli
They recently relocated from the Netherlands to London after finding the UK audience more receptive to breaking down musical genre barriers and embracing innovative crossover sounds
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Hello and welcome to future classic women awards with me, Stefania Passamonti on women's radio station the program where we search for the most amazing new female artists on the classical panorama. Today on future classic women awards we will be talking to braxie music. It's an amazing duo made by Brandi and Max Himmelrich. Himmelfreik. Himmelreich. I wasn't right. So they are an amazing crossover duo and they're actually a married couple as well. So Brandy and Max are the international award winning rock opera vocal duo that is something we definitely need to talk about. With an impressive 20 plus years combined experience in the entertainment industry, they shot to fame with the UK X factor and they've been on Holland and Britain, Holland's got Talent and they became the winner of the Dutch talent conest pop stars landing a recording contract with Warner Music Benellux. So welcome to the show. Thank you. So how, how is that possible? A rock opera crossover vocal duo? We get this question quite a lot actually because it's for so many people it's such an opposite end of the spect rock and opera but for us it's quite a beautiful combination. I was saying earlier, if you think about some of the amazing modern rock and pop groups from for example Queen, Jim Steinman, some of these amazing composers, it's quite orchestral and quite symphonic, which is exactly what the classical composers were in their time. And for us it's a passion that we really want to bring to the stage and to the thoughts and ideas of the new generations that the music doesn't have to be so segregated and placed in corners. In boxes. In boxes, absolutely. Brandy, do you have an opera training or. Yes. When I was very young, first starting off as a little teenager, I had lots of classical training and then when I decided I wanted to do theater, I went over from an opera focused training into musical theater training. And at my university I continued studying the vicai and at the same time studying musical theater. Yeah. Okay. And so how did you meet with Max? Well, many years later I picked up and moved from the United States over to Holland and started singing there in. In a little dinner theater and I met Max and our boss put us together to sing a crossover song, Viva Pillai. And we really connected vocally and then we realized we connected behind the scenes. And Max, are you a classical trained singer? I am. I can officially say that I'm trained classically, although it's a little bit less orthodox, I think. I started off singing in rock bands and pop groups when I was a teenager just in. In my local band with my friends, and I went to drama school. And in my fourth year, I finally got allowed to get some more vocal lessons because everything was very focused on straight drama and acting. And I really wanted to make sure that when I went outside of Holland to the States or to the uk, that I'd be able to audition for musical theater. So I got 10 lessons with a baritone teacher from the Royal Conservatory. And it. It came very natural. It clicked, and it was that that gave me a new path. And the rest. I learned a lot from Brandy and from a couple of other teachers, but it was mostly those 10 lessons and learn by doing. Amazing. Amazing. So do you have any favorite male opera singer, Max? Well, by far, Pavarotti. I love Caruso, and I think they were the very first crossover artists. Really? Yeah, they are very relatively recent. Well, yeah, relatively modern, I think. But that is where. Yeah, that is where on that side of the spectrum that is. Because his performance as well. That's what you love, as well as his. Yeah, the eyes. No, I was saying it. They are the very first one. They started Caruso for sure, to go on movies as well. And there is another one, Mario Lanza. Yes. Yeah, Another of the greatest. That they were really bringing opera to the bigger audience out of the opera theater, isn't it? And so who can we say that Brandi dragged you in to opera? Or it was already something that was in your vein in. Well, I started that before we met or maybe similar time, actually. But Brandy is the. Well, the power. But the funny thing is, when you hear especially some of our newer music that we've written, Max takes the classic lines and I do the pop and rock lines. So we've really switched. We've completely switched. Switch circles. But it's. We love it. A proper marriage of styles as well. Yes, exactly. That's a beautiful way of putting it. That is, I do believe. I mean, music is beautiful in all its form. And we should stop saying, you know, this is rug, this is pop. This is. Well, if you think about what you said as well, with, you know, them being crossover artists and Bocelli is a crossover artist, but for people that aren't involved in the classical scene, they assume that that's all purely classical music. So I think these labels are kind of detrimental, really. They're not that they don't really work anymore. So it's nice to be able to kind of fuse the two. And we do, you know, we do have some. Sometimes people from one side or the other that will say that it's not pure but for us it's very pure because it's music that touches you and I think that that's really what, what it's all about. It's the universal language of music. That is absolutely right. So you want to start listening to your music with a song called Tu Amore. Yes. And I'm impressed. So you write your own music? We do, yes. Yeah. That is quite amazing. And so how did that song come up? Well, we found this amazing co writing group here in the UK that's special, specializes in classical crossover and they found the idea of making more of a bombastic rock sound exciting. Okay. So we, we joined forces and that's how this one came about. Beautiful. Let's listen to. Sa. Sa. Ra. And this was Tu Amore by Praxi Music. We will be back after a short break. WRS women's radio station Voice of Women Worldwide Sarah's universal Soul Show. What does your soul or spirituality mean to you? Welcome to feature classical woman awards with me, Stefania Passamonte on women's radio station. Welcome back, I'm Russ Caine. You're listening to in conversation with on women's radio station. I'm Angie. And I'm Patsy and we're open to see what other programs we have on women's radio station head to our website womensradiostation.com hi, my name is Michelle Bartlett, the founder of Live Laugh Love Ladies club. We're looking for ladies to link arms across the globe. 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We're currently welcoming donations to help towards our running costs to keep this important initiative alive. To donate, simply head to our website. Every little will help. Welcome back to feature classic women awards on women's radio station, the program where we search for the most amazing new female artist on the classical panorama. Today we're talking to Brandy from the proxy music duo with Max Heimmer. And we were talking about your amazing composition. So one question. The accent. You are not English. So where are you from? I'm originally from America and moved over to the Netherlands 14 years ago. Okay. And what brings you to London? Well, we. We really wanted to break away from these kind of boxes what we were speaking about earlier. And the Netherlands, while it. It's a very nice place for certain things. For us in particular, it was very much in the music scene. They wanted everyone to be in a box. So we found it very stifling and just didn't really enjoy our time there. And the more we started to work overseas and especially for UK audiences, the more we realized that there was such a. A welcoming and warming feeling to what we did. People were ready here to see and hear something that was different. And it was just. It was really just the next step was to change our lives and to go where the people wanted us to be. Absolutely, absolutely. So I read that your song Il Nostra More won amazing awards as best song in the unsigned only competition. And you won in the UK Songwriting contest. And we placed. Yeah. Yeah, we placed. Yeah. Fantastic. So how. How is it to write a song together? Well, it's. I wrote Il nostro Amore, the sort of the first draft on my own. And then with always with the idea that it was going to be a duet. And then Brandy came in because I was a bit like, oh, is she gonna like it? You know, I was unsure. And then she loved it, thankfully. And then she helped me with the English lyrics a lot more. And with the melodies and harmonies, we normally end up writing around 2 or 3 o' clock in the morning after we've. After we've come home from a gig, had a glass of wine and then we sit down and we write something. Brain's worrying. Yeah. And then that. It seems to work. So why the title in Italian, then? Well, I was inspired by two different places. I always get very inspired when I listen to a Coldplay. And even though I then have my ideas of these Italian lyrics, because I use quite crude ways of making sure that my Italian is correct. Mostly friends, but also like Google Translate. And then it's. Oh, that's terrible. That's terrible. Italian. It should be this and then that. Ah, right. But what about this and then that? So it's a bit of. Yeah, just. Just finding my way through it. But on a musical level, but also on a lyrical level. Yeah, A Coldplay really inspires me. And then I listen to the beautiful, most beautiful songs from Andrea Bocelli. And the combination of the languages, since it's both. Not my first language. My first language is Dutch. So I look at it maybe from a different perspective and it's very inspiring. Both languages really help each other to become beautiful music, I think. Well, I'm Italian, so I do agree with you. Yeah. Although, you know, they used to say that Italian was the perfect language for opera because opera was born. Now, of course, all the German will kill me. Yes. But that's the truth. And I'm quite pleased that somehow it's like going back to the Ruth in a way. So still writing, it's a language of love. And I know a lot of people say that that's French, but for me, there's something very melodic about the Italian language. And there's so many words for love and there's so many words for passion. And that's. You can hear that in the music and the way when you're speaking Italian or you're listening to it, you can feel the passion, I think, more than any other language. Well, what I have with it is where French can be very. Yeah. Also beautiful. And love stuff. What attracts me to Italian is the melancholy when you speak about love you can have. There are so many different forms of love. Love for a brother, a love for a parent or a love for a lover. And you're. I find it very beautifully expressed when other writers. Not. Not me particularly, but other writers express those feelings and that really touches me always. It's very inspiring. Do you listen to opera? Do you dream of maybe singing Some arias from. Well, when we do our shows, our classical shows or our show is called Crossing the Classics, which begins with a more classical genre and ends with quite symphonic rock really. But we do sing a few arias. Figaro, Casta Diva, the ones really that are quite a bit more commercial that we can reach. People that necessarily don't listen to opera, we can reach them easier because they've heard it somewhere, somewhere before. So we tend to use those in our actual shows the same way. If we are doing a cover of a modern rock song, it will always have a more symphonic sound with strings in it and things like that. But it would be something that people that listen to classical music and opera would recognize as well. I see. So what would be your next dream aria to sing, Dream Ari, if it wasn't to be just commercial, for example? I don't know. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Casta Diva, I think is one of the most beautiful, beautiful arias. It's so passionate and it's. I think the meaning behind that aria and what she's saying really touches me a lot. And I think that that's one that I do sing. But I want that to be even better. You know, I think you can always grow and you can always learn and I'd love to just take that and. And grow with that. Absolutely. I know. It's one of my favorite too. Well, shall we listen to Nostra More then? I really would love to listen. So this award winning song by Roxy Music, Nostromore terno. Don't you know a love is everlasting it will stand forever strong. The night is always darkest just before the dark on when the night is over and the darkness disappear the sun shines ever brighter. And this was Il Nostra More by Praxi Music. We will be back after a short break. WRS women's radio station, Voice of women Worldwide. Sarah's universal soul show. What does your soul or spirituality mean to you? Welcome to future classical woman awards with me, Stefania Pasamonte on women's radio station. Welcome back, I'm Ross Cain. You're listening to in conversation with on women. Welcome to women's radio station. I'm Angie. And I'm Patsy. And we're open. To see what other programs we have on women's radio station, head to our website, womensradiostation.com hi, my name is Michelle Bartlett, the founder of Live Laugh Love Ladies club. We're looking for ladies to link arms across the globe. This is a new vibrant brand connecting women socially. 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We're currently welcoming donations to help towards our running costs to keep this important initiative alive. To donate, simply head to our website. Every Little Will Help Radio Station. Welcome back to Future Classic Women Awards on Women's Radio Station, the program where we search for the most amazing new female artists on the classical panorama. Today we're talking to Brandy and Max from the Braxy music Rock Pop Opera crossover group. So we were talking about, you know, crossover and what is bringing you back to opera from rock group. I mean it's amazing. Your journey so far. What would you say was the most challenging moment in your career? For me it was definitely after doing one of those television shows. I thought I never expected to do that because I used to have a very big judgment against it. I thought it was just a bunch of people wanting children, wanting to be famous really. But when I moved over to Holland, I learned the language but had an accent so I wasn't getting cast in what I would normally be working at. So I was kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place. So I said, I'm gonna do this audition for this show. It's called Pop Stars. I just wanted to have a little bit of, like, to be visual a little bit so that I would get cast. But six months later, I won the show, which was incredible. But then it became so much more about what they wanted to produce, their songwriting, which was very bubblegum, poppy. It was not something I wanted to do. And it took two years doing that and constantly fighting to find my own voice within that. And when I did finally find it, they just kind of threw their hands up because they had no control anymore, which I found to be very, very hard. People that one day said that I was fantastic, two years later said that I was horrible when vocally, I grew a lot in those two years. So that is definitely the hardest thing. It's so hard to have people in the industry. Be such a fan and then the next day hate you because they're not making money off you. And it became more about. Because they don't know how to make money off of you. That's it. Because it was so different. And, I mean, I do understand that. And we were speaking about this earlier. I do understand that. It's. Some people will listen to this and wonder why we're here, and other people will listen to this and go, wow, this is the future. But at least you have an opinion then. I think that there is definitely a mark for what we're doing, but it's new and it needs to be approached perhaps in a different way than what they would normally do with a classical artist or someone from those shows. So that continues to be a rougher journey. It's not the easiest road we've chosen, but I'd prefer to have this and to look back and be proud and to stand behind our art. Absolutely. So what would you say are the pro and cons of your career as a woman and as an opera singer? Definitely. Gosh, there's so many to say. I think, well, for myself, it's difficult because you do have. I have that stigma of. If someone listens to my music, they could say, very easily, you are not an opera singer. Even though I have had that training, and that training is the only reason I can sing the other style, in my opinion. So that's quite difficult. I do think being a woman in the industry, especially being as strong opinionated as I am, that becomes tough. There's a huge Pay gap, as I think most women know in any industry. But in this one, for sure. And people have called me a diva, or, you know, other words like that. But it would be a compliment, really. Well, because you're. You're a strong person. Oh, yeah. So instead of it being a. But, yeah, I know. They say it in a negative way. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Yeah. So I think in that sense, you know, if Max, for example, or a prima donna. Right, A prima. Yes, that's a better. You know, Max, he'll have the same opinion and he'll be strong, and then they will say to him, oh, you're. You're. You're such a good man. I see, I see, I see, I see. And how difficult it is to work with your husband, like, to be basically 24 hours together. Well, Max, close your ears, please. Well, we've been. We literally have spent every single day together for the past six years, but this spring. That's love. Yeah, it is. I feel like, you know, we've been married now six years, but. But I think in reality, you can multiply that by two, because we are always together. We've gone so close now that when we're performing, all we have to do is look at each other and, you know, you match. I mean, you have this unspoken language. But Max is going to go on tour with the International Magic Tenors in the spring, so we're going to have two months apart. Oh, my gosh. So we'll see what happens. Then we will look for you, Max, with the Magical Tenors. Amazing. That's fantastic. Okay. And, Max, what would you say it is? You know, does it change your perspective, working so closely with the female artist, apart the fact that she's your wife, but, you know, rock group as well, mainly is like boy band or girl band is rare when you see the two together. Yeah. Unless there is a big leading female singer. Yeah. It's very hard to sort of, I think, to make an objective comparison, being so close in it. I love every second of what we do. And we've really been. And we won't ever stop, I think, been searching for what our sound is and how do you blend all these different genres in the way that everybody will enjoy. Enjoy it and still not everybody will enjoy it because it's. It's definitely a statement, but the difference, I. I think my only other difference was me being in a band with four guys, but we were teenagers, you know, so it's. I don't think it's a very fair comparison. Okay. Because it's like 10 years ago. Yeah, 10 years. 10 years ago, that young girl. Okay, amazing. So. And what would you say was the most exciting moment in your career, both as a soloist or as a duo? The things that can bring you the most pain, bring you the most joy. And, you know, having that opportunity to perform on television for, you know, millions of people was incredible. As much as the outcome was painful, you still. How many people can say that they've won a television show worldwide? I mean, that's crazy. You're in a very small group. And whether or not people appreciate it doesn't matter. It's still an incredible experience. You know, I have a daughter at home, and we would go to the playground, and we'd be walking around the playground, and then all of a sudden there'd be 200 children around because someone said I was there. You know, that experience really changed a lot of my ways of thinking, and it was very, very cool. I mean, I'd love to say that. I mean, of course, my marriage and my daughter being born, that was also great stuff. But career wise, this was. But we're still. We're still moving. We're still moving forward. And, you know, we have goals that. The things that we would love to do, our dreams, and we're determined on making that happen. That's beautiful. What would you say to an aspiring young student that decided to, you know, make this type of career or a younger self, for example? Technique. Technique. Technique. That's what we have a lot of younger performers that we see when we're touring around, and they're not warming up, they're not setting their technique, they're not taking it seriously. And I think that is. That's the worst. I think the only way you can have a successful career in any part of music, I think, is to. To know something about it and to study your tech. There's a reason why this technique has been around for hundreds of years. There's a reason. And there is a reason also why many famous singers break their voice. Exactly. So. So that's what we try to preach. And the kids, they don't really think it's the coolest thing I know. All right, so what would you like to listen now? Should we listen to Never Enough? Ah, wonderful. Okay, so Never Enough by Jenny Clower with an arrangement by the Brandi Braxy duo. Yeah. Time and your touch long over to. I would dance holding on to a pillow as though it were you. Patiently I would wait, you'd never come leaving me broken undone and no matter how hard I tried I was never enough for you and no matter how hard I cried I was never enough, it's true Never enough, Never enough. I lost God. And no matter how hard I try I was never enough for you and no matter how hard I cry But I was never enough, it's true. And this was never enough by Jenny Clower sang by the Brexit duo. We're going to be back after a short break. WRS women's radio station Voice of Women Worldwide Sarah's Universal Soul Show. What does your soul or spirituality mean to you? Welcome to future Classical Woman Awards with me, Stefania Passamonte on Women's radio station. Welcome back, I'm Russ Cain. You're listening to in conversation with on women's radio Station. I'm Angie. And I'm Patsy and we're open. To see what other programs we have on women's radio station, head to our website womensradiostation.com hi, my name is Michelle Bartlett, the founder of Live Laugh Love Lady Club. We're looking for ladies to link arms across the globe. This is a new vibrant brand connecting women socially. Our club members enjoy great food, fun and inspiring speakers while making friends of all generations. If you're a social butterfly in your community, this fast growing franchise may be for you. Or we invite national companies to advertise within our close network of members. Please Visit Live Laugh loveladies.com club. Are you looking to enhance your career? Are you looking to grow your business? Well then why not visit wearthecity.com wearthecity.com is a website for working women. It's full of inspirational stories of women that have been there, seen it and done it. We also feature events, women's networks and other articles that may help you to progress both in terms of your connections and business ideas. Visit we are and take your business or career to the next level. Women's radio station Voice of Women Worldwide presents future classic Women Awards nominees concert Friday 23rd November at 7pm hosted by me, Stefania Passamonte with some of the most amazing nominees we hope so far on the program. It will be St. James Catholic Church, Marylebone. Please join us for a fantastic evening of classical music. Are you struggling with money? Turn to us as a national charity helping people struggling to make ends meet. Job loss, illness or bereavement can cause a real financial crisis. We give practical help to get people back on track. Whether you're thinking of having a baby, trying to get out of an unhappy relationship or just unsure what benefits you May be entitled to. We can help visit turntous.org.uk WRS Women's radio station Voice of Women Worldwide women's radio station is a not for profit community interest company. Support Supporting women is our passion. We're currently welcoming donations to help towards our running costs to keep this important initiative alive. To donate simply head to our website. Every little will help. Welcome back to future Classy Women awards on Women's radio station. Our guest today is Braxy Music, the fantastic duo made by Brandy and Max Himmereich. So I wanted to ask you, you know, this amazing pop opera, rock duo, where did you get the inspiration for these? Well, a lot of it came from an old vocal teacher of mine. His name was Richard O. Owens and he was, he had an amazing career in the classical world and he taught voice at our university in Florida. And I came into the university thinking, I don't want anything to do with pop music. I don't want anything to do with the modern, even the modern styles of musical theater. I wanted to keep it quite, quite classical. And he was the one who kind of whipped me into shape. And he said, I'll never forget it. We were studying the. And we all had to sing from that. And he said, you know, stop making love to your own voice. Make love to the audience. You have to sing from your heart. And he was the one who said, this new, this pop music, this modern music has so much to offer and it isn't easy. And, you know, he was right. And the moment that I started actually having to sing pop for different reasons, I realized it was quite difficult. And, you know, it was, it changed. He changed my whole opinion about it. And it's really because of him that I started to go down this path. And sadly, he passed away a couple months ago. But I know that his, he's taught many, many, many students who will never forget these lessons. Yeah. And his legacy will go on. Exactly. Yeah, absolutely. So now it's time for the odd question. So do you have any strange hobby to relax your mind? You know, any strange hobbies? I feel like your hobby is working. You're the most relaxed when you've done a really, really hard day's work and you're like, ah, finally I've done something today. Tomorrow again, seven days a week. Yeah. Or what would you say? Probably that. Yeah, right. Yeah. Or a bubble bath. Or a bubble bath. Yeah. Okay. Why not? Why not? And do you have any ritual or superstition before going on stage? Yes, but not once. I can share on the radio I'm just kidding. No, it's. I have to have a 15 minute warm up with a straw before. Before I go on stage. I have to. For at least 50 minutes. And I always. I learned this from Richard as well. I have to have a port mixed with brandy and that relaxes everything and. Yeah, that's very good. Okay. And any funny moment or embarrassing moment to share from your career on stage or going on stage? Yes. Yeah, yeah. Many. Well, we were singing once. We were actually. It was me. Max was backstage laughing at me. I was on stage with. Singing this acoustic version of Unchained Melody. But the chords. The first chords of another song that's by Elvis. What's it? Wise Men. Oh, that one. Fools Russian. So I started singing the wrong song, didn't understand what was happening. And then eventually it started to go into the bridge and I had to change the melody a little and I thought, oh, what's happening? And I went off stage. I didn't. It didn't click. And Max was literally on the ground laughing. And he said, oh, you sang the wrong song the whole time. That's amazing. How did you do that? It's crazy. I know. It's adapted so quickly, isn't it? Very funny. All right, so what's your next project or recording or. Well, we're planning on starting our UK tour theater tour with our show Crossing the Classics that will begin at the end of the summer. And like I said, Max is doing the international magic tenors, which is why we're postponing our tour until he gets back from that. And in the meantime, I am actually doing a panto, which is quite fun. So completely different. While he's on tour singing his Nest and Dorma, I will be getting booed by an audience full of children. So really excited about it. I might be coming watching you. Yes, please, please. But definitely come to see our show at the end of the season, starting the end of the summer, Crossing the classics from Bowie to Bocelli and Prince to Pavarotti. Oh, fantastic. Beautiful. All right, so what shall we listen now? Well, we thought it would be fun to share the one cover that we have made. It's quite a surprising cover. It's Stay from the artist Shakespeare's Sister. And this is a symphonic version of that song done in the braxy style. And we hope that you, through these four songs, also got to hear more of our journey from the more classical genre to our rock pop. Absolutely. Let's listen to it. If this world is wearing thin and you're thinking of skin? I'll go anywhere with you Just wrap me up in chains? But if you try to go alone? Don't think I'll understand. No stand Stay with me, Stay with me? In the silence of your room in the darkness between? You must only think of me? There can be no in between? When your pride is on the floor I'll make you be for more. Stay with me, Stay with me. Stay with me me Stay away? You better hope and pray that you make me stay back to your own world? You better hope and pray that you wake one day back in your. When your pat is on the floor I'll make you beg for more. Stay with me ra. And this was stay by the Braxy duo on their version of the Shakespeare sisters song. 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