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Gold Foodies – Curry

Gold Foodies·24:28·24 May 2018·

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Join host Malak Obady alongside her friends Noosh and Rachel as they dive into the wonderful world of curry on this special Gold Foodies episode. While Malak admits she’s not the biggest curry fan—primarily due to her aversion to saucy dishes—her enthusiastic companions are determined to change her mind by exploring the rich diversity of curry traditions. The trio discusses how curry varies dramatically depending on where it comes from, from the saucier versions found in different parts of Bangladesh to the coconut milk-based curries of Indonesia. It’s a fun, lively conversation about personal tastes and culinary perspectives that celebrates the complexity of this beloved global dish.

Noosh breaks down the fundamental building blocks of authentic Bangladeshi curry, emphasizing that it all starts with the holy trinity of onion, oil, and salt, followed by essential spices like turmeric, coriander, and cumin, plus garlic and ginger for meat dishes. The conversation naturally expands to include other cultures’ interpretations of curry-style dishes, including Arabic morga and how different nations have adapted the concept to suit their own culinary traditions. By the end of the episode, Malak is open to reconsidering her stance on curry, recognizing that perhaps she simply hasn’t experienced the right version yet—and her friends are ready to prove that curry deserves a place in everyone’s kitchen.

Main Topics

  • Curry is not one-size-fits-all—there are significant differences between Bangladeshi, Indonesian, and other cultural interpretations of curry
  • Authentic Bangladeshi curry starts with the foundation of onion, oil, and salt, then builds with essential spices like turmeric, coriander, cumin, garlic, and ginger
  • Indonesian curry typically uses coconut milk as its base, making it creamier and greasier than South Asian versions that use water-based preparations
  • The word 'authentic' is complex when discussing curry, as every nation has adapted and made the dish their own over time
  • Personal preference plays a huge role in curry appreciation—Malak's aversion to saucy dishes has influenced her curry experience, but she remains open to trying different styles
  • Curry is deeply cultural and personal; some people, like Noosh, even enjoy it for breakfast as part of their cultural identity
  • Arabic cuisine has its own curry-style dish called morga, demonstrating how similar flavor profiles appear across different culinary traditions

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Hello, and welcome to another episode of Gold Foodies with me, Malak Obady, on women's radio station. So I'm here today with my good friends Noosh and Rachel. Hey, guys. And we have a very special episode today. We're gonna be talking about curry. So my girls, they are obsessed with curry. Am I right? Yes. And it's funny because I actually am not that big of a fan of curry just for the fact that, like, I just. I just don't like too much sauce in my. But there's different types of curry. Exactly. I know. So, yeah, there's different types of curry. And that's what we're going to talk about. We're going to talk about the different types of curry and also the different perspectives. I mean, I'm not the only one that probably isn't a huge fan of curry. And you guys aren't the only ones that love and are obsessed with curry as well, which is a shame. It is a shame. Like, me and Rachel, we were just discussing. She's not a huge fan of curry, but she likes the spice. Yes. And I never thought of curry as sauce. I mean, curry is just curry. It's just. It's just liquid. No, that's the thing. There's different types of curry, like, in where I'm from, Bangladesh, we have, like, a variety, right, different dishes, and some of them are more saucier than the other, and some of them are really spicy. Others aren't different parts of Bangladesh. Well, you know what? What. What you guys are gonna have to try and do by the end of this episode is try and get me on curry and get me. Get me crushed on it. Okay. I just. I think the only reason why I just. I'm not a fan of curry is just I haven't had enough of it. So I haven't made my mind up yet. But maybe you guys can change my mind. I will try. We will try. I will try. Yeah. Hollywood Babes is a unique ladies wear boutique situated in Thought Bay Broadway in South End. On street, we carefully select all our lines and offer you only the very best in women's clothing. 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When you try curry back home and then you come here and you try curry here, what is that like for you? I think. I don't know if you, Rachel, you want to speak about, because the basis of our curry is quite different as well. Like South Asians cook the curry in a certain way. Okay. And people. I think you guys in Indonesia. Well, in Indonesia, the curries are. It's just greasy, it's full of spices. It's like it has coconut milk. And here I'm. I don't think I've ever tried English curry, to be honest. Why is that? I don't know. It's just. It just never comes to my mind when I go to the pub. Why would I order curry in the pub? Good point. Do you guys make curry at home then? Is that your, like, preference? Well, yeah, same, same. Like Bangladeshi curry is like. We don't really use coconut milk. We're more. We. We do the same grease thing and lots of spices. We're all about. Yeah, the b. Like, I don't know if you. Do you want me to go through the process of. Go on. Yeah, why not? Okay, so firstly, curry, like, home is where curry is. So. Yeah, honestly. So I live for curry. I even have it for breakfast. Some people find that gross and I don't know why. I'm a true Bangladeshi. Okay. I love my curry. It runs through my blood. So when I make curry, basic, basic things that you must. Must have in a curry is onion, oil, salt. Onion, oil, salt. That's like the main. And then you go into the powders. So there's different powders. I think that's what. What is powder? You can have the spices. Spices. Sorry, I got makeup on my mind. So turmeric, right? You have turmeric, you have coriander, spice, you have. It's. Here's the thing. I don't know the English words for half spices. I don't know. Actually. Do you have that same struggle as well? It's kind of like say a couple. I'll try and try and figure out what it. Jeera. I don't know. Ginger? No, no. Oh, yeah. You need garlic and ginger. If you're making a meat curry, you must have garlic and ginger so that it takes away the raw smell. Right. That's the. So what's the difference with Indonesian curry? What. What's the foundation of Indonesian curry then? So most of it, it's not water, it's coconut milk. So it makes it super greasy and it's super. Like it's thick. Yeah. And it's creamy with coconut milk, isn't it? I love cooking with coconut milk. I mean, I. I don't know if I. If I consider me making it as curry, but I make a lot of like in. In Arabic we have like more something called morga and it's like curry but Arabic curry. And it just doesn't have as much spices. Very simple when it comes to flavour. But it's like that one or two spices that are in our morga that are like the main component of this curry sauce thing. So you basically stole our idea and just made it your own. I mean, I'm just Kidding. I think it's funny because every, I'm talking about authentic Ren. I know, honestly, I mean every, every nation has their own version of a dish. You know, I mean, like the Middle east is very similar to Greek food. So I think that, that, that might be, you know, the reason why, you know, Middle east has also a curry version of, of their own dishes. Right. Sale, sale, sale at Queenstyle furniture. Up to 50% off all our furniture styles. We've got new styles and traditional styles styles Italian styles and German styles. Styles for your living room or styles for your bedroom dining table styles or a variety of lighting styles. Queen style furniture. Uxbridge Road, South Hall. We've got style. Ready for a challenge then take on the pink ribbon walk for breast cancer care. Coming to Oxfordshire and Essex this summer. We've got everything covered from snacks along the route to a massage and medal when you cross the finish line. 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But is it the same thing as the McDonald's one? Yeah. They have curry ketchup. Yeah. I feel like the McDonald's curry sauce is trying too Hard to be quite like. Yeah, it's not quite a curry sauce, but do you think it goes though, with the chips? No, because it's not fully curry. It's not. It's just trying too hard, like. I don't know, it's just. I don't know what it is. I don't really like it, personally. Curry dip, it's like, you know when you have like a sauce, but they turn. It's a bit thicker, so it becomes. It's like curry, but thick curry. So that you can dip your chicken. Make the curry. Curry sauce authentic and real. Like, you know what I mean? If you're gonna go for a curry sauce, make it original. Make it with love and passion. Make it from the base. Like onion oil grease. Yes. I don't know. Turmeric. Turmeric and all that stuff. So how often do you guys cook curry at home? Is it like a daily thing for you guys? Not for me. It's. It takes quite an effort and I. Maybe once a month. I'd. I'd do it every day if I can. I don't have time, though. But I do try to do it like at least once a week. But I like, try to cook like a bunch. Right. For a lot of people. Yeah. And like to keep me going for a few days. But it's like. I know it's very difficult to make and the process is so long, but it's very therapeutic. It really is. What do you guys think about the jada curry sauces? Like, you got, you know, in jars. Korma, you got. I didn't know this. I didn't know that either. Okay. Uncle Ben is taking it. Taking it to the next level. He's. Uncle Ben, the Bolognese guy? Yeah, he's. He's tomato sauce stuff. No, I don't have any interest in that anymore. I make it real. It's for the people that can't be bothered to. To. To. To do curry from scratch. Like me. I get. I get my sauces. I mean, they have this really sick tomato and creamy. Creamy cheese and tomato pasta sauce that I get. And you can easily just cook your own and make your own, but I can't be bothered. I was like, myself, seafood, like tomato or pasta sauces. Like, I trust the jars, but curry. I trust the jars, then only then. But for curries, I don't think they can be. They can come from a jar. It's just not how. It's not where curries come from. It doesn't exactly. I feel like you need the raw ingredients to make a proper, to make a proper curry, right? So that you can taste every part of the curry. You can feel it in your heart and your nervous system and your blood and your mind and yourself. If it just, wow. You need to feel it. And it really, like, honestly, I don't know. Even though I make curry at home, I feel like the curry back home, home in Bangladesh is still different. It's still out of the world. Because back in our country, I don't know if Rachel, you feel the same way, but like for me in Bangladesh, like the spices that we use, we grow ourselves. Wow. Like, we don't get from packets kind of thing. So we like, for example, turmeric, we have it growing on our roof, like literally. And then we bring it down and we crush it and then we put it the curry. See, that's a proper curry, right? That's like a proper, proper curry. And it's effort, I'll give you that. It is effort, but it's worth it in the end. Like with all good things, it's, as I said, it's. For me, it's a form of therapy. It's kind of like if you have chicken and chips, that's like, it's quick fix therapy. That's like cbt. But curry, making curry is like psychotherapy, long term therapy. It's psychodynamic counseling. Love that. It's like, it works from the root with chicken and chips. It's surface, it's just, okay, let's. It's a quick, It's a whole nother layer. Like you're just uncovering a deeper layer with. Yeah, I love your passion for curry. I mean, it makes me want to just, just, just eat curry now because, I mean, I'm not a fan of it, but now, now that you're speaking, I just want to eat curry. You should give it a shot. Authentic, proper curry. Honestly, like, for me, it's less therapeutic and more like comfort when you're eating it. It's not when you make it, but it's when you eat it. Right. So you don't like the process. It's okay. I mean, I get to end, I get to eat it in the end. So it's like the reward after the effort. Also when you eat it, you feel like you're somewhere else and it's just a different experience. Eating curry and eating, for example, like chips. And it definitely makes you feel like you're back home as well when you're eating it. I feel like that when I eat my Morga. I feel like I need to find the English version of this word. It sounds very stupid when I say it. Oh no, it sounds cool. Is there, is there like, is curry called curry from back home? What's. What's your versions of curry, language wise? Well, my favorite type of curry is from the Sumatran side, like the Sumatra island of Indonesia. So it's called Padang food. And the curry, they have like curry Ayam, so like chicken curry. And they also have this curry type dish, but it's called Kaliyu. So I am Kaliyu. That's really. That's really interesting. So there's like different names for curry depending on the type. The type of curry love. Do you have? Like in different parts of Indonesia, the curry is made completely differently? I think so. Oh, is it similar? I think so. This sounds like I sound like I'm from Indonesia, but yeah, sometimes different regions make it differently, right? Yeah, exactly. Like for me, like in Bangladesh, definitely. So in Subhangashi is living in England. Majority of them are from Silet. So I'm from Dhaka. I can't. I don't know my geography. I don't know where each place is. But people from Silet make the curry more spicy compared to people from Dhaka. I love spicy food, so I prefer their food over mine. But it is quite different at the same time. Like, even though we're such a tiny country and you think that everyone makes the same food, but we're still very different in terms of the amount of spice we put in and flavor and. Yeah, and what about language wise, does it. Is it called different things in different regions as well? Yeah, I believe so, but it's not very different. It's kind of because there's different dialects and different. A few different languages in Bangladesh. So I speak Shuddhwa and Silati. Speak Silati. Right. So I don't. I don't really know what they call it, but we would call curry torkari, I think. I love how the word curry is just still there. It's like that you can. It's like a whisper, you know, when you're like whispering the word. It's there in the word. The word is so beautiful. The difference is just in the Rs. It's like we just roll our Rs. Kari. It's not kari, it's karina curr. Curry. Can you guys hear the word like? And you were talking about the Indonesian curry dishes. You still have the word curry in it as well. So maybe that's where the English word curry came from. If you think about it, Women's Radio station will give a voice to your brand. Advertise your product, services or goods on air with a package tailored to suit you. For more information, visit womensradiostation.com hi, I'm Michelle Bartlett, the founder of Live Laugh Love Ladies Club. We're looking for ladies to link arms across the globe. This is a new vibrant brand connecting women socially. Our club members enjoy great food, fun and inspiring speakers whilst making friends in a room of all generations. If you're a social butterfly in the community, this fast growing franchise could be for you. 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I've tried some places for Japanese curries just because I really like how they mix the curry sauce with fried stuff. Fried stuff? Yes. Yeah. Like the katsu similar to Indonesian curry. Is Japanese curry similar to Indonesian curry or is it quite different? It's totally different. I think, I think the, the Japanese curry is more similar to the sauce curry, but it's like a lot thicker and a lot more taste. I've experienced that Katsu curry is something that I have all the time Right. Because of the fact that the. The spice levels are very low, which is why I can have it. And it's. It's much thicker than. Than a lot of other curry dishes, I think. And that's what makes me love it the most. And also the fact that there's fried chicken with it as well. Just kind of like bring the two worlds together. The. The bringing. Yeah. The fried continent together. Asian culture together. What is. That's what makes it so lovable as well, I think, like, everyone can. Can. Can love it. Yeah. I guess it'd be a good transition to having a more spicier curry. Right. I guess. So what places have you tried out? So, besides my home, of course, I. I don't generally have curry outside. I feel like true curry comes from the kitchen, like, directly, like from home. Yeah. And, you know. Yeah. But having said that, there are a few places that I would highly, highly recommend starting off with this very shady Bangladeshi restaurant in Stepney Green called Dhaka Biryani. From the outside or the inside, it doesn't look great at all, but the food is banging. It will blow your mind. It's amazing. So that's. What's it called? Hakka Dhaka Biryani. And that's Stephanie gre. Stephanie Green. Yeah. Yeah. In which is near my land. East London. Yeah, East London. I think a lot of people will be like, what is she doing in Dhaka Biryani? Because. So, like, it just looks like a very. I'm kind of disappointed you never asked me to go with you, honey. I. I don't. As I said, I don't usually go. Like, I think I've been there twice, and this is. We're talking four or five years ago. I generally just cook at home and I live really far in general. Well, it's good to know that it's good. There's good curry places around. Yeah. No, I. I'd say, like, for. For some reason, this is like, even going to other countries. If you want to go to an Asian food place, find the shadiest place. They have really good curries. Compared to a really posh place, it's really weird. Makes sense. Yeah. Do you get me? Yeah, I get it. But I really like Dishoom as well. Yes. I was going to mention. See, I've been to the Shoo. Really like it. Yeah. I feel like I want to go there now. But Dishoom. Yeah, Dishoom's great. But the only thing I don't like about Dishoom is the prices. Like, as a student. Yes. Also the portion sizes, very small. Compared to the. The prices, I mean, it's not something that you'd want to go on a regular basis, that's for sure. If you want to go to Dishoom, you'd want to go maybe, you know, one or once or twice with a bunch of people and get, like, sharing platters. I think that's what makes dishoom so special, is that it's kind of like tapas but Asian style, because it's like you get all of these little curry, different curries, and you get, like, the naan bread. You got the different versions of different types of rice with the different meats. It's the best kind of, like, Asian twist on tapas. Yeah, but no, honestly, like, it's. Because, as you said, it's quite pricey. But Dhaka biryani, the portion's large and the price is much cheaper than Duchoon. Good to know. And it's interesting because curry is. Has been declared the number one curry has been declared the number one dish in the uk. Oh, really? Yeah. It's the most loved dish. And it's not even a uk you know, it's not from. Yeah, the uk, which is really interesting. What do you guys think about that? Yeah, I'm not surprised, to be honest, because there's a lot of curry places. There's a lot of Asian food places like Brick Lane is packed with Bangladeshi, Indian, Pakistani, even Japanese food places there. Yeah. Okay. Did you want to say something? No, sorry. Well, thank you guys so much for talking to me today. I. I really enjoyed. I mean, now I want to go and have some curry. I'll just. I'll just have to find myself some curry. Tried you got. You gotta make me some curry next time. Time. One day I do. Nushwill. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure you cook well as well. I use instant bucket. This is a whole other debate that we need to have on the instant. Instant spices or regular spices? You decide. Okay. Well, thank you guys so much for being on the show with me again. And if you guys liked what you've been listening to, you can check us out on womensradiostation.com and also follow us on. And also follow us on wrst. I always get this wrong. 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