Future Classic Women Awards – Dimitri Scarlato

Hello and welcome to Future Classic Women Awards with me, Stefania Passamonte, on Women's Radio Station, the program where we search for the most amazing new female artists on the classical panorama. Today we were supposed to have Agnieszka Teodorowska, fantastic cellist that just came out with a beautiful album by Dimitri Scarlato, an Italian composer conductor and active politician, if I can say that. And she couldn't make it, so we have with us the composer himself. So hello, Dimitri. Good morning, everyone. Very nice to see you. So tell us, Dimitri, this album is called Colors. It's your debut album as a solo composer because you have been a screen composer as well. So we heard your music in several movies as well. This is classical to cool. Can we say that? Yes, it's classical contemporary. And just to make a note, I've been in quite a few independent films, indie films, so small projects, yet to break in big projects. But we might have some good news soon. Oh, fantastic. Okay. Well, I've seen the one with Amber and— what's it called? Sparks and Embers. It was a feature, debut feature film by British director Gavin Boyters. And yes, then famous actor. Yeah, there was Chris Marshall, that is well known for the BT Avermaet, also, yeah, Detective in Paradise, Something in Paradise. I mean, he's a well-known British actor. He was also in Love Actually. Yeah, he was also in Love Actually. That is a movie that we've all seen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. So how was to work with this How is it the difference between, you know, working in— actually, you have been working on set with Michael Caine too. Yes, I did work with Sir Michael Caine. Yeah, so you were his conductor? Yes, I was his conducting coach. So in a film by the Oscar-winning director Paolo Sorrentino that was called Youth, that was shot in 2014, Sir Michael Caine was playing the role of a composer-conductor, and I was his conducting coach on set, and it was an amazing experience, I have to say. Yeah, yeah. Well, you also composed opera, two operas actually. Yes, I composed actually three operas. Three? One, one is when I was a student. You actually— oh yeah, you were playing on it. Oh my God, I was challenging. Well, you did it on purpose, if I may say. Yes, that was when it was a— it was a Doing my master's at Guildhall. Yeah, can you remind me the title? It was called, um, Di Terra. Di Terra, yeah. No, I'm confused. It's something about earth, I can't remember, because my brother wrote the libretto. Ah, fantastic, I didn't know that. Okay, yeah. And then you had Fadwa, that is— then I had Fadwa, that was It was fully produced by Accademia Philharmonica Romana in Rome in 2013, and it was premiered at Teatro Olimpico. And then I did, um, The Christmas Truce. Beautiful opera. It was another short, small chamber ensemble opera that was done about the World War— about, about World War I. Yeah, because it was centenary, um, of, um, the starting of the Italy taking part of this war. Mhm. And so we were commissioned 3 short chamber operas to 3 composers. Fadua as well was quite a political opera. Fadua was really intense because it— and it was a proper length opera because it was inspired by the true happenings. It was the first honor killing that happened in Italy. Mhm. I think it was in 2005 or 2006 that there was basically a young Pakistani girl that was dating an Italian guy and was killed by the father and the uncle, if you remember correctly. Amira Salem. I'm not— in northern part in Italy. And so that was the original starting point of the story, but then also it was linked to the The Tragedy of Antigones. So because it was— this opera was inspired by a competition where you had to write something that was inspired by the Greek tragedy. I see. And then I, I chose the, the Tragedy of Antigones. And so the relationship between the— also the woman and her father. And then also because Fadwa dies in the end, and so Antigones in the name already there is the destiny of the, of the hero, like in the tragedy. Because in the tragedy, Greek tragedy, you always know that what's going to happen. So Antigone, that she dies, Antigone, that kind of generate. Yeah. So already the name, you know what's going to happen. This is why I also chose the name Fadwa when I was selecting the names. So Fadwa, that means destined to self-sacrifice. And this is right, how will happen to the, to of the character that at the end of the opera she will die. It's such an interesting subject, this relationship between the ancient Greek mythology and nowadays, you know, realities. These are things that unfortunately happen still today. Here in the UK, we heard of many cases of women that have been killed by the family for this type of honor. And And also the fact that this applied to different religions at the same time, different cultures. So in a way, it makes us more all the same. So it doesn't matter if you are a Muslim, Catholic, you know, old Greek mythology. The relationship between father and daughter and family and honor is kind of the same in many different ways. But it relies on the fact that the women are at the center of it. Despite the religion, I have to say that there is an issue about the violence against women. Yes. Because also the opera was— opera that was describing also the violence of the father against the daughter. Yeah. And as you know, I'm Italian, and in Italy, at the time when I did this opera, we did lots of interviews. About this issue. And I have to say that the situation hasn't improved, actually has gone worse. And we're not talking about killings because of religions, they're just, you know, men that just when they lose control of power over a woman, they just become violent. And there are being far too many episodes of killing women for no reason, to be honest. Yeah. And this is something that we— that's why you are one of our guests of Future Classic Women Awards. Talking about women and not just about classical music. Now, just to start the first listening of today is Green from your latest album Colors. Can you tell us about this? Now, Green was a composition inspired by a woman, because I have to say that many of these compositions were inspired by women, and she was a former student of mine. When I was in Italy. And I remember that we just connected again with the age of Facebook. Yeah. Because this album, the composition spans from 2008 until the recent days, because it's a project that I left, let's say, sleeping for a while. And while I was writing this composition, I was imagining, despite the name "Grey," there is also somehow a subtitle. It's "Raining on Trees," because I imagine this, you know, this grey rain over the trees, the green of the trees. Wonderful. Let's listen to it. Welcome to Women's Radio Station. I'm Sarah Louise Ryan and welcome to Love Lessons Live on Women's Radio Station. Hello. And welcome to Future Classic Women Awards with me, Stefania Passamonte, on Women's Radio Station. Hello and welcome to Julie May Is Listening. Hi, this is Anna Kennedy and we're at Women's Radio Station supporting women's wellbeing and we're talking all things autism. Women, the possibilities are endless. That's what makes us different. Hi, I'm Falguni Desai of Action Coach. Are you a business owner with more than 5 employees? Do you want to grow your business? I'm a London-based business coach who helps small and medium-sized businesses to grow and make a profit. I will help you identify the strengths and weaknesses in your business and then work with you to improve it using a structured framework. To find out more, contact me on 0721 654 640 and book your 1-hour complimentary one-to-one coaching session. Thank you. Hi, I'm Tracy Whedon of Brownhill Insurance Group. We are an award-winning, family-run insurance broker covering a wide range of insurance products ranging from commercial lines to personal household, high net worth, and fine art. You can contact us on 0208 658 4334 or visit our website www.brownhillgroup.co.uk for your free, no-obligation quotation. At Brown Hills, we've got you covered. Hi, I'm Hazel Butterfield, a blogger, book lover, and mental health advocate, and you can listen to my show Get Booked here at Women's Radio Station daily at 5 AM and 5 PM. Throughout my shows, we'll talk about the books I've read, new releases, chat to authors, publishers, and book enthusiasts, all with the theme and aim of supporting women's emotional well-being. If you have a book to tell us about, get in touch at presenters@womensradiostation.co.uk. Join me on my show and share my love of books and writing. Hi, I'm Valentina Barbacci, and I'm the Executive Director of Media Matters for Women. We're a registered charity operating in Sierra Leone and the Democratic Republic of Congo, and we produce and share podcasts via Bluetooth on mobile phones, focusing specifically on women and girls excluded from information due to extreme poverty. We empower those living in rural areas with media that transforms how they access, own, and share information. To find out more and be part of this movement, come check out our website at MediaMattersForWomen.org. You're listening to Women's Radio Station supporting women's well-being. Women's Radio Station's creating a global network for the empowerment of women, and we want you to be involved. Join us on Instagram and Twitter at Women's Radio Station. That's Women's Radio S-T-A-T-I-O-N. Or Facebook Women's Radio Station to keep up to date with all our exciting programs. Welcome back to Future Classic Women Awards on Women's Radio Station, the program where we search for the most amazing new female artists on the classical panorama. Well, today we don't have a female artist, we have an amazing male composer, Dimitris Karlatos. Who is also a lecturer at the Royal College of Music and is a classical composer, conductor as well. What else? And a political activist. True. How did you— let's talk about it, why not? So you are very active on Brexit. You are a representative of the Three Million. Yes. Do you want to tell us something about this? Yeah, the Three Million is basically the biggest group that represents European, the UK. And I've started like a couple of years ago almost by accident, and now basically I'm the lead for the European lobbying. So I often go to Brussels, try to convince the people in charge that they should safeguard our rights and also the rights of our friends the British in Europe, because in this Brexit madness, madness, there are the Europeans, the UK, but there are also the British in Europe. Absolutely. We are like 5 million citizens, they are in limbo. We have been limbo for a long time, and 10 years, it's crazy. As you know, also because of the political instability in the UK, that really doesn't leave us, um, calm and relaxed as other people would think. So despite all the promises made by politicians, because we know that promises can be broken, have been broken often, and What we're worried about is that the UK leaves the European Union with a no deal. And there are lots of people in the Tory race for the leadership, they are gambling on it, saying we're going to leave with no deal, which is not good. It won't be good for the country, it won't be good for all the citizens here. So we are very active on monitoring what's happening and also keeping the lobbying both in the UK and the European Union. Now, how does— How does politics go into music? I mean, we heard about your operas that are all quite politically, how do you say, active? No, how do you say? Yeah. And well, it's all, you know, in touch with modern days and modern life, isn't it? Well, I think there have been composers in the past, obviously the first name that comes to my mind is Wagner, but also there were some somehow politically engaged, let's say. Yeah. And obviously when you're writing an opera, you can choose the topic and unequivocally it can lean to be political one. In my case, because I'm really interested in politics, all my three operas have a political element. Yeah, all three. But also when you write a piece of instrumental music, you can still be triggered by political elements. For example, Last year I premiered a piece for string orchestra called In Limbo that was inspired by this book written by Eleanor Remigi, that is a writer that collected all the testimonies of the Europeans in the UK and their anxieties and collected in a book called In Limbo and they send it for the British in Europe. And so with this piece I tried to recreate the atmosphere I found in the book. In fact, it's like, say, it's a fragmented piece with lots different episodes that was trying to depict the emotions and the state of anxiety the citizens suffering during Brexit. So you can still have a political vision in your music. Yeah, absolutely. So let's say it's very important because this program is not just addressed to a lover of classical music, but it's also to open up the subjects, the meanings of classical music to people that they're not used to listen to it. And that showed the fact that classical music is not just listening to beautiful tunes or, you know, things that give you emotions, but part of emotions is as well everyday life and politics and feminism in this case, or, you know, Brexit. Yeah. I mean, again, in the recent years, in the last 50 years, especially during the '60s and the '70s, you had composers, avant-garde composers that other than writing quite challenging pieces, were also deciding to perform these pieces in specific venues. Like, for example, Luigi Nono did a piece that was performed in a factory, and the same Pauline did concerts in a factory. Yes, I remember that. And they were pieces obviously inspired by World War II, lots of pieces inspired by World War II or by the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. So if you choose a topic that it's actual. And then I think nonetheless the politics can be a medium to be inspired, to be musically inspired. And as you said, also the theme of feminism, and this is why we also— there's also a rising of female composers that also are, especially in the UK, I would say, that nurtured, which is good because we need more variety. Absolutely. In a world that it's mainly white male dominated. And being a white male, that's my thing. But you've always been, you know, very, very attracted to the female subject, I think, in a way that you like representing fairness, and you've been representing things that should be right, like with Fadua, with the opera Fadua, or string pieces dedicated to— called Limbo. So what's your relationship with women in general? And no, no, no, no, personal— on the personal point of view, but musically speaking, let's keep it to that. Challenging, I think. Okay, out of the studio. No, I'm joking. But from a personal and professional way, obviously. Do you feel there is a difference between us? Uh, I'm not sure, uh, because to be frank, I, I had excellent working collaborations with women as well with, with men, and a challenging situations with women and, and with men. I would probably say that probably because in the last reasons that I was— I had a challenging Um, sometimes I remember challenges between players, it wasn't— it was difficult, but I don't think it was because she was a woman and a man. I think because of personalities, they were both kind of strong-headed, and so it was difficult. I mean, it's the fact of you see a musician, you don't see a man or a woman, do you? Yeah, exactly. This is why I don't care about gender, I care how you play. Yeah, this is the most important thing for me. And I, for example, last year with this concert, it was set up, it was an ensemble that I tried to set up from scratch and they were mostly women and there were some female players that were just simply amazing. So wonderful. Okay, now the next song we're going to listen now, it's Blue from Dimitri Scarlato Colors with cello Agnieszka Teodorowska and accordion Jurijs Barenko. Dimitri at the piano. And this was "Blue" by Dimitris Karlatos from his latest album "Colors." We will be back after a short break. Welcome to the Women's Radio Station, supporting women's well-being. Women's Radio Station is all about diversity from opinions, career, ethnicity, education, and most importantly, women's well-being. We aim to celebrate the individuality of every woman everywhere, providing opportunities and the platform for your voice. Visit our website womensradiostation.com for more information. Hi, I'm Liz Van Linden, a UK travel consultant for Hazelmere Travel. People come to me as they want unique experiences and a personalized service. This happens from the moment that they inquire till they come back home. I work with luxury tour operators. You can contact me on 07825 44 12 12 and liz@hazelmayortravel.co.uk. I'm Tamina Zaman, founder of Empower and Enrich. When it comes to money, do you clam up or get confused? 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Today our guest is Dimitris Karlatos, an Italian composer with a fantastic international career, as well as a conductor and as lecturer at the Royal College of Music. I mean, what do you think is the most challenging thing to do when you are a professor, you know, when you're dealing with younger student? Obviously to inspire them, because, uh, I lecture history of contemporary classical music. So you, you might have to find, find a way to, um, involve everyone, which is always difficult because not everyone may like contemporary classical music. Um, so I always try to involve them by, you know, asking questions, making them to participate in the lecture. And also nowadays you can't just talk, so the lecture is always like multimedia elements with video and audio and trying to trigger their interest. And also I'm lucky because my cycle of lecture also involves film music, so I also specifically talk how classical contemporary classical music and opera gets used in films by director. And generally these ones are always the most successful lectures. But I have to say, I also have a lecture on women composers Oh, wow. Yeah, I speak about Kaia Saario and Sofia Gubadullina. Okay. And so, you know, I do something for the course. One question: what would you tell yourself if you could go back in time, or to one of your younger students, as a piece of advice? Well, with all the mistakes I've done in my life, I have very few advices. Surely to be persistent. And really to perfect your craft as much as possible, but also not to be locked in your room. Exactly. Because unfortunately, if you want to be an artist, it's a matter of luck, but also it's a matter of being in the right place at the right moment and connecting with the right people. So really, also the social skill nurturing is really important, unless you are an exceptional talented genius that it's enough for you to be a performer. I don't think that can be nowadays anywhere, you know. Um, you would have to have— it's one on a, you know, it's a really small quantity of people that achieves, like, say, success. That for me, success is just being, being in the creative industry as a performer. Absolutely. But then they have someone else behind that is doing what you are supposed to do by yourself with social skills and Unfortunately, others are as important as yourself. You can be the most amazing artist ever, but if you're not with other people who can listen to you, you are just an amazing artist in a small room. Yeah, I agree. Okay, so I'd like to talk about your latest album, Colors. Yeah. So what about the colors? I mean, that's the way you see the world, am I right? Um, you see the colors? I, I love colors, otherwise I wouldn't have done an album called Fine Enough. He's dressed in black today, but it is a color too. I know, but it's a non-color actually. But if you go to my place, if you go to my place, you will see that each room has a different color. And I got purple, yellow, green, brown. Do you have a favorite color? Uh, I have Like, I love purple, and I like, I like blue, I like green. So yes, I would say these three are among my favorites. So what about Gray? Is this track that we're gonna listen today, is that color? Yes. Say that black is non-color. It's gray color. I think it's a primary color. Okay. Um, Gray, it was inspired by, by my father that was passing away when I wrote this track. So I was imagining the gray hair, the being, you know, old and, you know, and tired of life. So this is— that's probably— it's the most sorrowful track of the album. And you had poems that would introduce— yeah, we had poems written by Laura Jane Foley. And basically when I initiated this project— not when I initiated— when I decided to realize this project a couple years ago I originally wanted to have the medium of a video, so the live video during the performance. But yeah, we can see those on YouTube. And yeah, there are small fragments, but it was too, let's say, too complicated. And also, to be frank, also very costly, unless I have a— and also I should have involved various people, pulled in too many favors. So I decided to, to, I mean keep on a backbone this idea, but in the meantime to have another artistic medium, and I've decided to commission short poems for each color. And so although the album is just on the color tracks, but if you listen to Colors in the live performance, it's a show that it's fluent. So each color is connected by this short poem. And so that's— if anyone has musical knowledge, basically the poem and some pre-recorded music and ends on the key of the following track so that it's all connected, it all flows. One tricky question. So do you think music is more powerful when involved with other arts or music can just work by itself? It depends because if you think of opera, opera is not just music by itself, but still it's a powerful medium. Music can be powerful by itself, but also obviously it becomes even more powerful in some instances with connection with other arts. If I think of my area, so film and opera, I mean, soundtracks and music really enhance a film and also are enhanced by the film. Well, let's listen to the next track. It's Grey with Agnieszka Tyodorowska, the cello, accordion Yuriy Tuberenko. And Dmitry at the piano. And this was Grey by Dimitris Karlatos from his latest album Colors. We will be back after a short break. Welcome to Women's Radio Station. I'm Sarah Louise Ryan and welcome to Love Lessons Live on Women's Radio Station. Hello and welcome to Future Classic Women Awards with me, Stefania Passamonte, on Women's Radio Station. Hello and welcome to Julie May Is Listening. Hi, this is Anna Kennedy and we're at Women's Radio Station supporting women's well-being and we're talking all things autism. Women, the possibilities are endless. That's what makes us different. 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Hi, I'm Hazel Butterfield, a blogger, book lover, and mental health advocate, and you can listen to my show Get Booked here at Women's Radio Station daily at 5 AM and 5 PM. Throughout my shows, we'll talk about the books I've read, new releases, chat to authors, publishers, and book enthusiasts, all with the theme and aim of supporting women's emotional well-being. If you have a book to tell us about, get in touch at presenters@womensradiostation.co.uk. Join me on my show and share my love of books and writing. Hi, I'm Valentina Barbacci, and I'm the executive director of Media Matters for Women. We're a registered charity operating in Sierra Leone and the Democratic Republic of Congo, and we produce and share podcasts via Bluetooth on mobile phones, focusing specifically on women and girls excluded from information due to extreme poverty. We empower those living in rural areas with media that transforms transforms how they access, own, and share information. To find out more and be part of this movement, come check out our website at MediaMattersForWomen.org. You're listening to Women's Radio Station supporting women's well-being. Women's Radio Station's creating a global network for the empowerment of women, and we want you to be involved. Join us on Instagram and Twitter at Women's Radio Station. That's Women's Radio or Facebook Women's Radio Station to keep up to date with all our exciting programs. Welcome back to Future Classic Women Awards on Women's Radio Station. Our guest today is Dimitris Karlatos. We've been talking about your wonderful operas and your screen music and your instrumental music, you've been a conductor as well, you are a conductor. What is the most challenging work you've been on so far, both being a lecturer or conductor or composer or politician? I'm thinking, probably the most challenging thing was when I was at the very, very beginning of my professional career as composer, because every activity is quite challenging, but now I got more, I don't know, the strength and experience to deal with it. And instead it was my first show, it was a big show in Italy, I was 26, and there was no money because the producer said basically, oh, I'll give you this opportunity, you might have to work for free, you know, typical Italian style. And so I was dealing with a huge amount of music to write with no resources and at the same time going to rehearsals because I was playing the show and dealing with, you know, too many egos. So people in charge, there were too many people in charge, like 3, 4 people, everyone wanting different things. So I think that probably was the most challenging experience. All right. And what would you say was the most exciting experience? Surely it was working with Sir Michael Caine on set because, you know, when I always wanted to do film music, but never in my life I would expect it to be on set with such a legend like he is, because he is a very cool person. Yeah, yeah, that was very exciting, and then it was really, you know, beautiful. Can you touch the charm? Is there the charisma of the person? Yeah, I mean, I remember once I was also at his place and giving some private coaching for conducting, and then he talks to you and he says, Obama. I never met him. I met Bush. I met Bush Senior. So these kind of people that used to deal with. Okay. Just come. It's another level. Absolutely. And do you have any funny moment that you can recollect? I think so. I think it was when I was again working on Youth, the thing with Sorrentino, with Michael Caine. There was a pool of great actors. It was Judy um, Harvey Keitel, Paul Dano, and Rachel Weisz. And I remember once at the beginning, I started at the base, I was coaching Michael Caine to play with some candy paper, candy paper, no? So it was just making some noises, some movement with his fingers to make the paper sound. And so I was on set and people were seeing me telling Michael, go left, right, go around, scratch etc. So at the beginning they thought I was, you know, who is this guy? Absolutely. So I remember one day we were going— why is this guy paid to play with paper? So we were going to shooting a scene in the mountains in Switzerland. So we're taking the cable car going up, and I was in a cable car with Harvey Keitel. And then he says, I've introduced myself, I'm Harvey Keitel. Yes, I know who you are. And then he said, I was fascinated by what you were doing. And then we started talking about music and stuff like that. And then I did, oh, you know, I'm a great fan of Mean Streets because in Italy we have titles that are translated. I know. And then he says to me, and I got confused with probably Godfellas. And then he looks at me, ah yes, I was in that. And I remember when we arrived there, there was an assistant director in Italian, he said to me, What the hell? That's very, very funny. So what's your next project or collaboration? Okay, so I'm working on my next album that I'm thinking, I'm starting thinking, I would like to be like for cello and electronics and piano about, you know, the journey of the migrants, because it's telling your journey. But also I'm working on a possible new opera. It's called Inspired by the Tale by Dostoyevsky, White Nights, with the libretto written by Anastasia Belina. Beautiful. And then I am trying to promote Colors, you know, because everything needs promotion. Absolutely. And we might do some further concerts next year, next season, let's say. Fantastic. Well, you will be back so we can talk when White Nights will be made because I'm very curious about it. And definitely good luck with Colors. Fantastic album. So, um, let's listen now to the last track from the album. It's called Red. And this was Red from Colours. Dmitry Scarlato, composer and pianist in this track, with Agnieszka Teodorowska at the cello and Jurij Cibarenki at the accordion. If you have any questions that you would like to ask to our guest for our future Classic Women Awards, please email presenters@womensradiostation.com or tweet us @WomensRadioSTN. A big thank you to our guest Dmitry for the fantastic music played today. Thank you for having me. It was a pleasure, and the pavoli was so interesting. We had so much to talk. You definitely have to come back again. You've been listening to Future Classic Women Awards on Women's Radio Station, live every day at 10 AM and 10 PM London time. If you would like to listen to it again or catch up on our previous programs, please email— please head to my presenter's page, Stefania Passamonte, Future Classic Women Awards on womensradiostation.com. Thank you for listening. Welcome to the Women's Radio Station, supporting women's well-being. Women's Radio Station is all about diversity, from opinions, career, ethnicity, education, and most importantly, women's well-being. We aim to celebrate the individuality of every woman everywhere, providing opportunities and the platform for your voice. Visit our website womensradiostation.com for more information. Hi, I'm Liz Van Linden, the UK travel consultant for Hazelmere Travel. People come to me as they want unique experiences and a personalized service. This happens from the moment they inquire till they come back home. I work with luxury tour operators. You can contact me on 07825 44 12 12 and liz@hazelmaytravel.co.uk. I'm Tamina Zaman, founder of Empower and Enrich. 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