Free Your Mind With LKJ – Jonathan Macdonald

Hello and welcome to this week's edition of Free Your Mind. Let's talk about it with LKJ. And a beautiful sunny morning it is. I hope everybody's awake and feeling vibrant and ready for a positive world to change your mindset. At womensradiostation.com, it is a radio station dedicated to mental health, so the daily challenges that we face and overcome. This, um, This particular episode is being sponsored by Jagger and Co Accountants, who believe in keeping your mindset straight of any financial issues. And they can be contacted on 01304 219 307 to Michael Jagger himself, and where satisfaction is guaranteed in his abilities to do that. And one of the reasons he sponsored this show was my guest is an inspirational gentleman. He inspires me every day with his passion, his vision. He's the Chief Executive Officer at Potential C World. I am, as my listeners know, a little bit dyslexic, so if that's come out incorrect, I'm sure Jonathan will correct that for me. He's a professional speaker, he's an author, he's a philosopher, and for himself He, you know, currently runs, you know, different podcasts. So I'm going to bring him straight in. Are you there, Jonathan? I am here. What an introduction. Yeah, wonderful. Wonderful. Can I hand the mic over to you? Because we have an hour and the hour goes very quickly. But I want to, you know, with this positive vibe this morning and, you know, get the listeners engaged immediately in who you are. So I'm handing the mic to you and let's get this show on the road. Okey-dokey. Well, hello, uh, listeners. My name is Jonathan MacDonald, uh, and, uh, yes, I, um, I have a flash title, uh, for a company which I'm forming, um, which is about girls' education because, um, I coached primary school children for 12 years, uh, in confidence and, um just the idea of growth mindset, which schools are now teaching, but they're not teaching it well because they don't seem to understand that the entire system of education is what's called fixed mindset. So the idea that you achieve a certain grade is so pervasive in education that what they do with children at basically 6 is sit them on tables that are convenient for the adult, and the children sit on the table. They, they know that they've been branded as stupid or what have you. I was branded that way. I was in the low set of school for myself. So the opportunity to change the life trajectory— you got two major chances. You've got between 5 and 7 which is when the majority of neurosynaptic pruning takes place, uh, and then you've got for girls up to and including puberty, um, because the world that is faced by girls— you go secondary school at 11, don't you? So there's been 3 times the story has run on the BBC website that girls are getting asked on average, on average, to 10 times a day for nude or seductive photos. So the education system, I, I just don't, don't think— look, the people that work in it are doing their best, I'm sure, but it's just the best that everyone else can do is just nowhere near what needs to be done. So that's my paid gig, uh, it will be paid gig, but my passion and the reason I'm here is that I was chatting to a female connection of mine, oh, 18, 19 months ago now. And as we were talking, she just said, oh yeah, I had this DM the other day from blah blah blah blah. And I mean, what? Because it was like a proposition, I think, her. And, um, I'm like, what? And then I, I spoke to a few more of my female connections, and apparently this is quite, uh, endemic in LinkedIn now. Um, uh, there was a— my, my co-creator, co-founder is a guy called Gregory Austin. He put a post up about LinkedIn is not a dating site, and then I suddenly had this flush of awareness that, oh, this is happening to lots of people all of the time, because everyone I've spoken to has anecdotally given me a story. So started the, uh, LinkedIn page Social Me Too, uh, and the website is socialme— www.socialmetoo.org. Me Too as in the Me Too movement. Um, and so that's why I started it because someone told me that they, they were getting harassed. And then I've had numerous guests on there, always women. Um, the problem that I'm having in getting men to open up is, I think, going to be nuanced in the way I ask the question. But I'm struggling to get men to contribute. But in terms of mental health, I don't use a smartphone because when I'm away from my computer, I don't want to be harassed by notifications and bleeping and chirping, all the rest of it. So I've got a basic phone, and indeed, after this interview now, I should be going to, uh, Prêt-à-Manger for personal growth. Um, But Social Me Too is— I've now done 40, 40 or so interviews. 40 panelists have been on, uh, and told me about their stories. And in fact, the series that I'm running at the moment is very, very distressing indeed. The panel are all from Nigeria and There's two women, young women, girls, said, oh yeah, um, if your professor or teacher wants sexual favors, you've got to do it or you won't pass the course. Um, and it, it, as I say, it's not all horrific stuff. We're doing a recording later on for about fake profiles But essentially what I believe to be happening is that trauma, which I have become recently aware of, uh, that I've had a little bit of trauma. And trauma is when something happens to you that's unpleasant and out of your control. And I get the feeling that if you're living out of the palm of your hand on your phone, and someone sends you— as a couple of weeks ago, I was actually sending, you know, dick pics in comments, so, uh, on LinkedIn. Now LinkedIn appear to only pay lip service, so people individually will complain and they'll say, oh, it's not outside our terms and conditions, we're just the conduit. What people posters up to them. We only stop, you know, religious incitement or things of that nature. And I just don't think that they understand the daily experience of, of so many women. So my idea is simply this, uh, the website www.socialmedia.org is absolutely free of any need for you to say who you are. So, um, it's completely anonymous. Um, you can leave sound, so leave an audio message with a voice changer, or you can write a story. You don't have to put even your right name when you're leaving the story. The reason I've done that is because I was watching the news, probably must— oh, it must have Oh wow, it would have been before the, um, uh, COVID. So let's say 2019, and a woman came on on one Monday morning and she was talking about her sexual assault in school, and she launched her website which is called www.everyonesinvited.uk. And on that, and a trigger warning, if you go to that website, it will be— it's very traumatic because people have left their stories about sexual assault, rape, um, on school grounds. Um, so there is a culture out there where boys are asking for new photos, where, um, It's a rape culture. Anyhow, this woman was on there one more— one Monday, and then the following Monday they asked her back because of what happened. And what happened was, in 7 days, 10,000 survivor stories of in-school sexual assault were left on that website. I was horrified. I am— I continue to be horrified. So I thought it's the anonymity that allows people to write their stories, um, and I'm looking for that same sort of breakthrough moment because at the moment I've been— I've been on your, uh, brother station Men's Radio with, um, Russ on a couple of occasions, and it hasn't yet led to any more stories being left. So what I'm trying to do is break that, um, seal so that people go, yeah, this happened to me too. And I am thinking— I'll stop speaking in a minute— but I'm thinking that it's the, it's the way I'm asking the question. So I ask female connections, oh, do you get DMs with this, or do you get, uh, comments, sexual comments, or proposals, or scams, or what have you? And they'll go, oh no, I don't get— well, very, very few. Uh, and the other day it sort of hit me, um, and I said, um, how many, uh, connection requests out of 10 do you turn down? And then the answer became 5 to 7 to 8 out of every 10. So I think that women especially are dealing with the trauma in the way that they push it to one side and don't let it, uh, concern them. And in that way, I think That's why it hasn't yet broken free, but we'll see. Well, for the listeners, obviously, you know, the first 10 minutes of that were, you know, going very much into depth on different areas, which I'm going to come back now and address with yourself. Because as my listeners or people that follow me, Lady Kendall Jagger, at, um, Lady Candy Jagger dot online. You can find my website, etc., on there, and I'm on LinkedIn. Now, on LinkedIn, I'm a major networker and collaborator on LinkedIn. As many people ask, are you on Insta? Are you on Snapchat? No, I don't do Facebook. I don't do that. But everyone has their reasons for doing it. But I had my own reasons for that. Because you get targeted, you know, and they don't do enough on these social medias to protect that person. The fake identities, everything like that, may work for business for stuff on there. So I do say to stay on LinkedIn. But your question is, you know, regarding women to speak up, to speak out, because we have a right to be treated with respect. Absolutely. As a male, and any male or female that are getting disrespect or DMs, then report it. If not, report it to you or myself, because I am going to highlight this even more. Because, you know, there was a lady, as you know, um, and for the listeners, that successfully won a court thing against somebody that had, um, approached her on LinkedIn, and she, um, won that case because of sexual harassment and how it was. It was inappropriate behavior, and it is inappropriate behavior. Any listener that is on these sites that you think that these sites and LinkedIn, which is basically to encourage people and to say who you are in a working professional manner so that you connect, collaborate, get headhunted, you work, you share, you share your voice. Your voice is important. But I myself yourself, Jonathan, have it every single day. And yes, I should report that more to LinkedIn on it. And like you said, I've brushed it to one side because I have such an overload work. I don't know how it's going. But LinkedIn is not a dating site. These are not dating sites. These are a social platform which I have, um, you know, to guide me, which is my armor. I took a course, as you'll see on LinkedIn, anyone looks at that in my qualifications, about social media awareness and how to protect yourself. It's a dangerous world, Web2. It's a dangerous world if you're not controlling it and protecting yourself. When people DM you, oh hey, how are you? Oh, you look pretty. That's the start. They're grooming, they're trying to find out. If you wanted to connect with me, then look at my damn profile, know who I am, and know that's why we're connecting. Do we have any mutual, um, friends, etc., in it? Or if you work with networkers, collaborators, that will do it. You're not just a key. But it has— and we have to be aware, especially with going into the metaverse and we're creating these avatars that are going on, you know, I'm an ambassador Flossverse. And it's important, the mental health and that, that we create that avatar to go into that world so we know it's safe and where you can go. It's not, um, a place to go. But getting back to this dating site, because all these, uh, Match.com, money, COVID, etc., energy bills rising, people who, uh, have that mindset, they're like searching for friendship. They're lonely. Perhaps that's why they're connecting, to reach out. But reach out for the right reasons. Don't reach out, you know, to send that, because, you know, they just come in there, you know. And there have been— and let me tell you, one person that messaged me actually came on there who was in a really high professional job, and I should have taken all that to the police. And once didn't, I should have done. But I thought, I'm better than you. And because I, you know, having suffered mental health adversity firsthand, understanding the word trauma, trauma from acute, the shock to your brain, the natural thing which you're not used to, has shook you. If you don't deal with that, you then go on to chronic, you know. And then we have to be careful that we don't get into complex. Because that's why Complex is, you know, a difficult place. And I got into Complex, took a lot of time and educating my own mind to get out of there. But I'm going to say again, live on this radio station, anybody, anybody, and I, I vow now today, everyone that comes, I'm going to report you. I'm going to report you because this is wrong, and I'm not going to brush it aside. As you said quite openly to me, you're doing wrong by doing, because we're not stopping Can we ever stop it? No. But you have a right. If somebody is wanting to connect with you, they should know who you are. They should know your profile. Look at the connections, research them, you know, put the stuff on, look at your LinkedIn and see who has viewed your profile. Who are they? View them back, go into detail, you know, and remove the mask of that person. Because they may put this picture up. There's so many FaceApps, everything that changes images, not even looking like them. But it is against the law to put out that you are this person when you are not. So really, yes, of course it is. You can't say I am qualified doing this, it's a fake CD. You know, you can be prosecuted for that. You can issue a CV and say, I went to this school and I'm qualified doing this. It's a lie. It's a lie and it's fake and it's misleading and it's untruthful. So for me, when my certificates are all on there, people go, wow, you know, you've done that. Yes. And I'm happy to say, have you got this? There's my certificate, please check it out. And I'm proud of that. I'm proud of that. But you have to be careful. I mean, We've had the pilot that flew a plane for years on false certification. The research and the due diligence wasn't done. So we have to take charge ourselves of due diligence. We have to do our due diligence more than anything. And again, I've said, you know, people now say, oh, you know, you're pretty, or like something, um, um, what do you do? So I go, what, you know, when they send a message, because I will answer them. I say, well, if you knew who I was and what I did, you wouldn't be asking the question. So why are you doing it? Oh, you know, are you married? This is not a dating site. It's against the law. I have this recorded and I will do it. And then they go away. So I don't get that repercussion from it. But hit them straight, you know, and go for it. But I do feel in defense of LinkedIn that they are probably one of the strongest out of all the social medias. That will go forward to this because this is why this lady got her court and her— the guy got in serious trouble for it. But on the other hand, I think LinkedIn need to put more social media awareness that this is not a dating site. And because of money, everything, as I was saying, more people are looking at it because they're looking at a face trying to do that. It's all part of grooming. You know, you look how people do and they groom no matter what, if it's for terrorism, for sex, rape, whatever they do it. And it has to stop, has to stop now because we are entitled to live our life and show who we are and remove the mask. Yes, we have to, to connect with people that are transformational angels, are people that you want to connect. You know, I put a daily message out and, you know, look at that. Right to connect for the right reasons, to show positivity, to upshift your mindset and to live in this different world, to speak up and to speak out. Like with the iTrust app, I completely support that iTrust app. Nick Inge, another great friend of mine, was, you know, high up in the police force, retired after 25 years, created this app which is a safeguarding app.. So in the workplace, health and safety, something's wrong or someone's, you know, being wrong with disability, you can, like a bit like yourself, an anomaly, is report it and it can be dealt with, you know. And there's lots of apps there. So look at yourself in the mirror. Now this is all the listeners, look in the mirror and do your list of who you are, what you want to be, who you want to connect with, what road, because we can get, you know, it can rain really hard and the road becomes unclear and we lose our path, and finding our way back when the sun comes out to dry that road and show us a new route, and we take that lesson with us. And, you know, it is important to do it like yourself, who you're about, what you do, and what you stand for. You know, we need more equality, and I'm not a feminist, and people know I'm not feminist, I have everything. Oh, you do women's radio, it's only women on it. Most of my guests, the majority actually, are more male that come. You've probably seen yourself that come on there than women sometimes, but it's usually about a course of what I'm doing or the interviews and the people I want to connect with. When I did dementia, etc., you know, using the brain, what it was, the neuroscience and stuff on there. And you know, something is why the wonderful Russ Kane, a fantastic presenter, and Howard Jamieson, that owns the radio, work tirelessly to give a platform where people can speak out. So anyone listening to the show, Connect is why you can connect with us, you know, and go through and have your voice heard. And the reason for my show is Free Your Mind, Let's Talk About Vel KJ, is to bring someone like yourself So these listeners can hear and understand, connect and think, that's happened to me. I need to just connect, then connect, connect with the person you're hearing, because we've done our due diligence. We know that you've done yours regarding me by association, what's going on, and to speak up and speak out. And, you know, we have to use wisdom now. Wisdom is the major tool in our mind that we must go forward and deal with it. And, you know, people will be seeing that Dr. Mangio Cristina has brought the app out. I don't know if you've seen it. It's an absolutely amazing app. It's a human system app, and it keeps a log of your journal with stuff that's going on. It helps you through relationships. Amazing. And when I was speaking to him the other day, he's going to be coming on the radio someone great for you, uh, Jonathan, to get in touch with about this app. It's like £50.99 for the whole year or £7.99 a month. But on that, it helps you deal with the daily challenges, you know, and it's absolutely amazing. And, and to do it— and these are by no means— I'm not being paid or anything by anyone. I don't do that. But if something's good, I use my voice to express it, like your platform is Brilliant. As I said in the beginning of this interview, you are inspirational. You are balanced. You are there for, you know, to go on the brother show of Women's Radio with Ras, speaking, constantly looking after the girls and stuff that are in there, you know, and what's going on. I mean, you say in the world, I mean, I spent some time recently in Kosovo and I was horrified You know, I was sent images yesterday how— now there's protests going on yesterday in— because an 11-year-old girl was raped by 5 men. 11 years of age. They've destroyed her mental health. They have destroyed so much, and it's wrong. You do not have a right to rape anybody. You do not have the right to destroy anyone's mind. But it's not just women that get raped. Men get raped too. Well, that's brushed under the carpet because men feel they have this exterior, so that I can't speak out. Speak out, connect. Don't be abused as well as women. Women abuse men, and you know, we have the conversational behavior, and it stops. This whole abuse has to stop because mental health awareness We can speak more freely. We're removing the label and allowing people to actually open up and save lives by doing it. And like you were saying, by, you know, a majority of females on there, and we need men to as well speak up. Yes. And, you know, because even if you haven't been abused, you haven't had this, you may know somebody that has. So speak up for them. Show your support. So for me, taking that on with that, which is, you know, a very heavy topic on that. And one of the reasons, because you are a passionate person, you know, about that and your mindset is to make this work. And it's wonderful to see that this is going on, you know, and what you are doing. I mean, because for yourself at Potency World. So that's www.potency.world or www.socialmetoo.org. Please look at these. Please, yes, view Jonathan's profile on LinkedIn, which is Jonathan, J-O-N-A-T-H-A-N, then MacDonald, M-A-C-D-O-N-A-L-D. And Jonathan is a force of nature. When we look at his— viewing his profile, his bio, what we write about ourselves is to draw the attention to somebody coming on, you know, and for yourself. This is, you know, you are a force of nature. Anyone that knows you, we know you're a force of nature. You know, you want to upshift this mind. Your pursuit is for a higher state of human consciousness. Okay, you know, dyslexic thinking— I'm a dyslexic person, um, Howard Jameson is dyslexic. We don't have a problem with that. We have a right— sorry, a right to our voice, to be heard, to do it. Yes, we may make an error just like that, but you can't stone us. We, we have that right. Disability equality inclusion. Did you always tell people The difference and what to expect, you know, and I just want you to open up to the listeners, if I may, about your view on dyslexic thinking, if I may, after covering— Absolutely. Several things we've got to cover, so I just want you to express who you are, for people to connect with you, and how you can help them with dyslexic thinking. Right, okay, so You may or may not be aware that dyslexic thinking is now a skill on LinkedIn. Uh, I was sent an article by a guy who's on the autistic spectrum, um, that Richard Branson and other major, uh, superior entrepreneurs basically are the majority of the time are dyslexic. I've gone back into various historical books because I just— I discovered my dyslexia kind of by accident. I was trying to teach dyslexic children how to spell, and I read this book about how to do it. And while I was reading it, I was also writing my own book, and I'd written down the description of how the world appears to me, and it's like it is for, for dyslexic people. So I only found out at the end of 2016 that I am dyslexic. Um, essentially I've been trying for the last couple of years to bring all neurodivergent brains, which is, you know, autistic, uh, dyslexic, dyscalculia, uh, ADHD— what else have they got in schools at the moment? These various things they're trying to drug children to be compliant are, I think, the emergence of a new species. And I say that because my best friend's a dyslexic, um, and it's because my, my thinking— you can hear as I talk, I'm bouncing around all over the place on different perspectives because in my head I'm looking at a picture, and when I speak to another dyslexic person, it might not be the same picture, but it's not important it's the same picture. What's important is the representation of the idea. Um, so I find that neurotypical brains, non-dyslexic people, I find them incredibly flat. I, you know, I, I really wish the best for them. That's why I'm doing these, this, these things with the Potency.World and the social too. I'm doing them because I want to see change for others. But the fact that I can conceive of an idea and a way to change the narrative and to, uh, basically create a different human race— it's the sort of thing dyslexic people do. They look at the world and they go, okay, that's the best you can do. Now let me have a go. Um, and then the other thing I wanted to do, if I may, is read you a quote that I saw. Um, Seth, um, oh, going, um, Jurassic Park, tall one with glasses, can't remember his name. Anyway, he was, uh, being interviewed on the Graham Norton Show, and this is a quote that I shall read to you because it sums up my Perspective. This is the true joy in life: being used for a purpose recognized by yourself as a mighty one, being a force of nature instead of a feverish, selfish little clod of ailments and grievances complaining that the world will not devote itself to making you happy. I'm of the opinion that my life belongs to the whole community, and as long as I live, it is my privilege to do for it what I can. I want to be thoroughly used up when I die, for the harder I work, the more I live. I rejoice in life for its own sake. Life is no brief candle to me. It's a sort of splendid torch which I have got hold of for the moment, and I want to make it burn as brightly as possible before handing on to future generations. And that kind of sums up my view on life. How was that? Amazing, you know, because you are somebody that, you know, has a strong, as I say, character, personality. And when you were talking about dyslexic thinking, you know, and going on and finding out how do we know we're dyslexic, sometimes by accident we find out because there are many of us that don't realize we have it. And then when you do, you know, you work with it and you get through. And as long as you speak up and say, well, it is like that, you know, and with your dyslexic brain, you can see different issues in multi-perspectively. So become around yourself that you're aware, you know, just speak out like I do and it's fine. You know, don't hide away with it, explain it. People understand it. There's more people with it now that are open and speaking about that. Indeed. You know, so yeah, can I want to take on now with the time is, can you explain why you did Potency World? What drove you to do this? So basically, I talked in the introduction about being at two points in a person's life, whether it's a grant where you can really affect change. So I spent the 12 years in primary school I was doing it voluntarily, and as a result, my methods and techniques were not seen to be important. And I spent 7, 7 and a half years trying my best to influence adults, uh, in schools, but I found it to be virtually impossible. Um, so Potency World essentially is the second opportunity to help change a person's life. So it is what I'm looking to do, and people keep on me I've got to start small, and I keep on telling them that's the reason why the needle hasn't moved. So I'm 50 this year. In 1977, it was the most egalitarian, equal society in this country it had ever been, and it's been slipping back since then. Um, and girls face a disproportionate amount of, um, superficial, uh, concern in it. So, you know, a primary-aged girl will run out, run around, and get sweaty and have fun and do anything she wants to, and then all of a sudden she becomes aware that, oh, this is what society expects for me. So the idea is I'm looking for several, 10, several, uh, billion £500,000, but they will build 5 10,000-girl-only academies. Think Wembley Stadium size, because what it will be is the girls will all have boarding availability, they'll all have their, um, IT equipment supplied. We're going to have an internal broadcast media company, so radio, podcasts, TV, and various social media clip-its, and they— the whole point about, about developing brains for the future is that currently secondary education does one function relatively well. So they teach you a bunch of things to pass a test, you pass the test depending on how well you feel on the day, and that gives you a ticket to the next ride. So we are churning children through this system, and the system now means that when they come out of university, they have at least £50,000 of debt— £27,000 for the course and a similar amount for food and board— and the amount that that becomes, given that very few graduates are able to get better paid jobs at the moment, um, that then leads to— let's say they don't pay their student debt off for 20 years, it's like paying off £150,000 extra. So we're damning our children to a life of debt Um, and this struck me as absolutely heinous, basically. So you have these 5, 10,000 girl academies. They are staffed only by women because whilst I'm aware that there, there must be the crime of woman-on-woman assault, I believe more that that is in relation to how women see themselves in the outside world. So the job is to rebalance the girls' perspectives. So 10,000 each academy, 11 to 18. The academies will all be— that all the girls will be linked through a social media that we're going to produce. But the social media we're going to use is for project collaboration. So in the same way as all the algorithms work at the moment, except we're going to take these girls in at 11. My mentoring officer is going to, um, spend this 6-week— design this 6-week deprogramming course. Because all through primary school, we've told them, oh yeah, you're lovely, you're an angel, you're a princess, you know, all the, all the tat that comes along with Disney that I thought previously was quite innocuous, but actually it's really bad because the girls, too many of them believe that men are better than they are, and they don't see themselves reflected in areas of business and industry where they're not reflected. And so they follow many fewer paths than they would otherwise do. Within the stadium accommodation of Potency, they're going to be— there was a cartoon called WALL-E where the human race had all, uh, escaped on this giant sort of spaceship. And it was like— so Piccadilly Circus, where you have that huge advertising screens, that's the sort of thing I see in Potency. So Imagine wandering through and you've got a studio where you've got 400 girls doing karate, and the next room along they've got a climbing wall, and the next room along you've got a gym, and then you've got, uh, a very— an engineering bay, and then you've got just all these various things that the girls will be outside because I can't think of everything, but the girls will be able to run through here and go 'Oh, I didn't know I could do that. Oh yeah, I'm quite interested in that.' So there will be no subjects taught apart from 20% of the time is everything that a young person needs. So all those exercises including self-defense, uh, all of the mindfulness, wealth, wellness, um, CBT, NLP, um, uh, training, but not just training, practice. So the way I see it is that if you take an 8-hour day, working day, that the first 2 hours of that working day are for personal development. So every day girls will practice mindfulness every day, girls will develop this self-defense so that they stand strong. A lot of perpetrators of violence against women, it's a power trip. It's not even really— it's, it's not about sex, it's about control. And control is something which people try to exert over you if they think they can. So people try and— they don't even try anymore. People have tried in the past to intimidate me, to make me feel this way. If I look at them in the eye and I look at them and I, I don't need to say anything, they go, okay, yeah, no. And, and that's what I want the girls to feel. I want them to— when they come out of our academy, they are strong in physical, mental, and psychological health. And basically, they'll have been spending 7 years collaborating with girls all over the planet. Northern— it's probably Northern Hemisphere for the moment because of the trouble of collaborating north to south. So, you know, we might have one in London, we might have one in Manchester, we might have one Canada, might have one if I can find a state in the US that isn't, um, supportive of the Roe versus Wade ban, um, and essentially anywhere where girls exist, we're going to try and get a potency to them, um. So that is it, I think. Did I explain that properly? You explained it extremely well, and for the listeners to have that But then in your explanation in how you can do that, because you have, you know, your background in mental health and understanding that, because obviously I'm sure you worked for a company that was about mental health, wasn't it? Oh, the Mental Wellness Society. I don't work for them, but I'm their London representative. So yeah, so the person that— so if your listeners, um, want— so first of all, the Mental Wellness Society is a page on LinkedIn, and the primary contact, although he's not doing his own social media at the moment, is a guy called Abraham Gerard Mayer. Um, he looks like Santa Claus, but he is in fact Jewish. So I made that joke and I didn't realize at the time, but they are a group. I— he asked me to be a representative when he was starting out and at the beginning of the lockdown. And in that time, so the last 2 and a half years, it's grown to be in 90 countries with over 250,000— 250— no, no, how many? It must be 2,500 specialists in all aspects of mental and physical health, so that no matter what you need, there's very likely specialist, uh, assistance for you through that society. Um, let or haven't got their website up. They must be— let me just check while I'm talking to you— www.mentalnesssociety.com. Dot— we'll go com. No, that isn't it. I can't find them. Um, let me, uh, let's find their page. Society. Okay, um, what I'll do— oh, hold on. Groups. I don't— yeah, okay, the group. Should I put it in the chat? Yes, if you put it in the, uh, well, for us in the chat, what will happen, um, is when it goes out and it said, you know, when your show goes out, which we, um, might— I don't know if it'd be next week or the week after, um, you know, we put it on, then we can put the link in on there and share it then people have that. Fine, I am— that's in the, in the chat now. And while you're lining up your next question, I'll see if I can find their website, which should be a lot better. But yeah, that's the Mental Wellness Society, and, um, it's— he has a vision basically, um, that so many people started talking about mental health throughout the pandemic. But he takes that further in that it's not about health, it's about wellness. They're two different perspectives, um, and he is passionate about people becoming mentally well, better than just functioning. But better. Yes, that's what we need to be looking and striving for, is if we can't fix— yeah, I know it's a cliché, I know we hear it all the time, but we don't fix ourselves, how can we fix anybody else, you know? Absolutely. If we don't respect ourselves, how can we respect others? So, eh, when you're saying about, you know, the girls, etc., like that, is respect yourselves and respect that this is not right when people are messaging you or trying to groom you. Yes. You know, with that education, so I guess they are trying their best, but it's a failing system. But, you know, they're only one teacher in classes now. Some are holding 33 in a class, you know, and it's being disrupted. There are many challenges, but got to do. But there are in any organisations people that aren't correct for the job, you know, they shouldn't be in there. Yeah. You know, I had a conversation with a parent who contacted me the other day to say, you know, her daughter had been bullied, they didn't do anything. Now her daughter has changed her mindset, I think, you know, to come back and think, be the school idiot, be like that, thinking this is the attention. That she's going for, and the teacher ends up screaming in her face, says, 'You're worthless, you're nothing but a waste.' You've lost control as that. And, you know, I said, 'You must call a meeting and get the appropriate authorities in because he's lost that.' And once he's lost that as the teacher, yeah, you, you can't do that. They're a child. You're teaching them through, you know, how to education of the mind to go forward, you know. And like you were saying with girls in Liverpool, because yes, we are, you know, I was that typical Centrillion girl, and with, you know, God rest her soul, Olivia Newton-John, you know. I came out with big hair, you know. I was looking for the guy, you know, the Danny Zuko, you know, going around. We did it, you know. How many of us listeners at home thought you're either, you know, the T-Birds or, you know, the Pink Ladies. For me, they're singing the songs, you know, how we would do it. And we are about makeup and, you know, working this stuff, you know, to feel good about ourselves, expressing and stuff with it. And, you know, rolling the skirt up, you know. Yeah, that's good. My father, you know, get that skirt down now. He was so Victorian, you know, with it. And okay, Dad, yes, Dad, get up the road, roll. I'm thinking, why did I do that? You know, don't grow old too quick. Well, you get old and, you know, mid-50s, it's like, God, you know, I'm trying to stay young, you know, and being that don't wish your life away. But it is part of it. We are going to test, we are going to challenge ourselves and try and paint these life journeys and roads that we will go on to do that. But at the same time, yes, the balance is wrong. You know, when I deal— saying, talking about Flowverse and bringing them in about some girls that, you know, work very hard at Oculus and sharing about the avatars and going through, you know, and it's shocking to see, you know, only 3% of girls are being noticed for tech, for being left behind. Looking at other jobs, looking at, you know, things that they could be good at, but they don't think that they're enough, they don't think they can do it, how will they be accepted? You have a right to be accepted, and we need to be challenging these organisations more. I know Alexandra Foster, she's BT, she's quite passionate herself, you know, on promoting people that are females to get these jobs. But there are people with their mindsets that are like alien and live in, um, the caveman syndrome, you know, where the man goes in, he licks his wounds, you know, and, and has to think because the woman's going on. But he comes out like, I'm the boss, this is how it is, I'm chief. But the lady can also be in charge of her cave because actually she's in charge of her cave. How many women actually is your home is your castle. How we decorate, how we paint it, what we do is a reflection of us. You'll actually look, and I'll ask the listeners here, you know, go back when you're sitting quietly and you want to reflect and breathe and go through. Have you changed the color of a room? I thought, God, how did I do it? Well, your mindset was not correct and you completely decorated this room and it's not balanced with you because something was going on on. You know, you say, why was you drawn to that colour? What was making you do that? You know, reasons and answering with that, you know, with our focus, we must remain focused on that, which is important, you know, with what we're doing and connecting and learning to be happy. And then with the girls and everything, as you were saying, speak up, speak out. It has to stop. And as I said, is that there are people even on my connections and on yours to reach out and to do this. And I love connecting and collaborating with yourself and having— it's been wonderful having you on the show where the listeners can understand this. Obviously some of these ladies, you know, and male females are on this wonderful women's radio show and listen to men's, that the views are very different. You know, we look at mental health with the girls, challenging, like you're saying, with puberty, I mean, like that, where, you know, these things change, you know. And isn't primary school such a wonderful place? I'd love to go back to primary school, not secondary, because, you know, through that thing, you know, behavior going down, but we're taught by our peers, our parents and the teachers, our boys that we train, we look up to, and how we take that through. And there's so much challenging behaviour now in kids, you know, world. And I sound like my mother when I'm saying this. Wasn't like that in our day. No, to the extent you were sitting, you think, oh, Mum, you know, you live in the Dark Ages. This is how it is now. But actually, it, you know, so that it was wrong, like you're saying, we are really going backwards. You know, I never thought I would be someone that would repeat that and say, you know, to my granddaughter, you know, like, you know, we didn't have that in our day. I had bullying and it was severe bullying, you know, it made me leave school at 15 and a half with no education, anything, I just couldn't bear And it is a trauma that is still there, a scar that's fixed on it. So again, working with it and dealing with that. But the bullying fact, you know, there's this shooting the government said about bullying and for the kids, you know, and to stop this, both male and female, again, you know, equal on that. Because boys do get bullied just as severely as girls, I'm sorry to say, but they do. It's covered up more because they're a boy, because, you know, you don't look man enough, you know, if you speak out. And it's wrong. And if you are a listener or parent that has a child, whether male or female, or if your husband's being bullied at work or something in a football club where he's going, you know, speak up, connect to the people that are out there, go where your voice can be heard because there is an ear. That will listen. There's also that invisible hand that will lift you up and make you feel better about yourself by connecting with you, Jonathan, and like you said, with the coaching stuff you've done. But just, you know, quickly, it will drop in here, uh, Jonathan, as well. Not only do you drive the mindset and the mental health, but you also try and make the world a better place on the road because you will see an advanced driving Am I correct? Yes, you're correct. Basically, I had a serious motorcycle accident 26 years ago which left me paralyzed in my upper right body, and it was because a car had pulled out of a side road. So I started to be— well, started to become aware I was having not even road rage but road psychopathy. Um, I used to dream about having a steel girder, uh, welded to the front of a car. And if a car pulled out in front of me again, I'd just wipe them out. It was like, I, I, yeah, I really wanted to die because it was so— it is so, so painful. So I, about 3 years in, I got a speeding ticket for going through a fixed camera. And I've always been a relatively good driver, and I noticed that, and that was a signal, oh, I need to change. So maybe a small signal, but it was a signal nonetheless. So the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents, uh, has a driving, uh, technique called the System of Car Control. It's what's used by emergency drivers, police, and, and what have you. And basically it's a 5-phase process. So you have number 1, the information which runs backwards and forwards. Number 2, your position on the road. Number 3, your speed to negotiate the, the hazard. Uh, number 4 is your gear. So you slow to the correct speed to go around the bend, for example, select the right gear that you want to come out, and then you accelerate. Um, and so I did that for 18— is it wherever it is, every 3 years? So it must have been 3— yeah, 18 years. Uh, and then I was doing my, uh, retest, which is every 3 years, uh, with the instructor from Hendon, which is the police driving sort of place to go. And he was in the car with me for like 20 minutes, and he goes, oh, you're easily gold. And I was chatting to him going, there's not a lot I can do because I, I do live with, uh, some disabilities which I don't let take me down, but nonetheless they limit some somewhat of my abilities. Um, I said, oh, there's nothing I can do in 3 hours a day. And he said, oh, you should, um, become a tutor. So I went along to this charity aspect and, um, trained to be a tutor, which I now am. But that is a voluntary thing as well, it's not a paid post. No, it shows again your humanitarian side and also with disability that you can get out there, you should be accepted, you know, when people look at you, you've got disabilities and you know, you put a walker, you walk, why have you parked there, you can walk, you know, the hidden disabilities and why, do not prejudge, do you not understand, and again more for a female, if they want to do their makeup, girls go, there's nothing wrong with her, she's got her, it's wrong, it has to stop, it's all mental. Sides of mental health abuse and stuff in there that we must stop. But it has been a pleasure. Our hour is about to finish now, so for the listeners, you know, a lot to think of. You know, replay it. This show goes out at 8 o'clock in the morning and 8 o'clock in the evening to catch it. You know, if you can only catch a little bit of it, back on at www.womensradiostation.com where you will hear this and see more on this. And if you enjoyed this show and you've enjoyed listening to Jonathan, please connect on all the social media angles, uh, that's on there, and they will be shared for you to get on there. And if you've liked my voice, thank you very much, it's been a pleasure. To serve you under mental health. If not, and you've got Eva, you've got Ramona, you've got— you need as many people, um, you can connect with and go to. But for me, thank you to Jagger and Co Accountants, um, for sponsoring my show today. And thank you everybody, and goodbye. Have a great day.