Radical Well-being – How to Fall in Love with Exercise

Hi, guys. Welcome to the Radical Wellbeing show on the wonderful women's radio station. My name is Ingrid Marsh and we're here in our studio at Covent Garden supporting women's wellbeing on the Radical Wellbeing Show. I bring you stories from ordinary women, not famous women, ordinary women like me and you, who are doing extraordinary things and they're sharing with us how they've hurdled over huge obstacles in their life to make the seemingly impossible possible and together. Our mission is a simple one and that's to empower you to jump over those life hurdles too, and to set your world soul free so that you can live the life that you was born to live. Anyway, as always, we are happy for you to connect and engage with us via our email address, vicious presenters@womensradio station.com so this week is an interesting one. I'm going to have you fall in love, right? I mean, like worldly in love with exercise. Okay? And this is really important because I know it's a tough old one, this, if you've never exercised before or you haven't exercised much to get going. Even the government knows, for example, that it's easier to get people going who used to exercise but fall off the bandwagon rather than those who haven't exercised. But I want to be speaking to those who really just don't do it, haven't done it at all. I've been speaking to loads of people about this recently and it's tough, isn't it? It's really tough to get going. And so we want you to get going. I want you to going and I want you to not just stick with it, but just love it. So it isn't such a challenge anymore. So before I introduce you to my guests, let's just look at some figures and what they say about the whole health thing. I don't want to bore you with it because it's everywhere. All right? We all know that we've got to be healthy. We need to be doing more healthy things, but it's important that I touch on it. So there's quite a famous health promotion consultant, Dr. Nick Cavill, and he said that if exercise was a pill, it would be one of the most cost effective drugs ever invented. So, you know. But we know all this, don't we? So I don't want to harp on it about it too much. But despite the fact that we know all of this, there's still a massive problem, and that is we can't get going. We are stuck in front of our tv, we are watching video games, all the rest stuck in front of our tv. And we are the least active we've ever been in our entire lifetime. And most of us are on our bottoms something like seven hours a day. But the big is, despite the fact that we know it has all these health benefits, it will save our lives. Why does all this advice get just falls on deaf ears? Why are we still struggling to get going? And I'm the great one for this because I did change my life around the whole health thing. So, you know, it's great I'm covering this. But anyway, to help us, to help me help you to get off our bottoms and to get going and to save our lives, I have a wonderful expert with me. Her name is Eugenie Burton. Eugene, Eugene, Eugene. Eugenie. I know she sounds much more plush though. She said, Eugenie Burton, it's such a beautiful name. And she's got an interesting story. And before we're going to go into the whole fitness thing, I'm going to go over Eugenie's stories first because I think sometimes if you're anything like me, when you see fitness professionals, you just think that they were like born that way and they've got no other problems and they're just happy. So we're going to start off with a story and then she's going to help, like I said, help me help you get out there and get. And lively. And turned. Fantastic. But Eugenie turned. In 2016, she turned 50. But it wasn't an ordinary 50, a 50 birthday. It was quite an important 50 for her significant one because her father died when he was just 50. And it was at that point she realized that, well, that was such a young age when she got 50 or so, because when you're younger, of course, you think 50 is so old, don't you? Then you get there, you realize that Croak is actually quite young. But then she realized that he was actually quite young when he died. You know, he was an entrepreneur. So she thought, you know, I'm going to dedicate my life, I'm going to leave a legacy in his, in, in his honor and get it out. And, and then she decided that she's going to take all her experience in health and fitness and all the rest of it to help sort of focus on this age group. If you're approaching 50, you are 50 or just left, but you know, around about the age group to get you healthy again, to get radical about your own well being. Eugenie. Hello, my lovely. Thank you. Eugene, I get it. Right. Hello, my lovely. Thank you so much for joining us. You're wel. And by the way, you've got to. Well, if you're watching this, you'll see her picture. Like, she looks like 20 and she was 15, 20, 16. Can you believe it? She looks absolutely amazing. Thank you. So whatever you're doing is definitely working. So before we talk about the whole fitness thing, I just want to touch on you because your own story is quite interesting, I think, because you've got this lovely person, a lovely personality, a very lively person, very beautiful. But it wasn't always like that. Was it at the beginning when you were younger? Tell us about that. No. So, to be honest, I only actually found this out a couple of years ago when my mother died. She actually died about two months before I was 50, actually, but apparently when I was three. Let me tell you, go back a bit. My mother always used to tell me that I was always up under her skirt. So even to your mother? Caribbean. She. Yeah, she's Bijan. She's very. Because that's such a typical. Under my skirt. And so she told me that when she used to go and have a bath, I'd be sitting outside waiting for her and I'd fall asleep. By the time she comes out, I'm sleeping. And so that was kind of me and my mum, where I'm just. I'm there. Bear in mind as well, at the time, there were four older sisters. Okay. So I don't know whether that intimidated me or what, I'm not sure. But I was up under my mother's skirt and she went into hospital for two weeks to have my younger sister. And within that two weeks, I was three. Within that two weeks, my speech regressed. And like I said, when my sister told me this, like, I was like, you what? What? Just can't imagine it. So, yeah, and I had to have speech therapy. And I do remember going to speech therapy. I can't remember what I did there, but in my mind I was talking fine. So I'm not entirely sure whether it's just being separated from my mom for two weeks or whether it's this new bundle of joy that came along and took the time that I had with my mum. But either way, it had an effect on me and I was just really just shy. So I, you know, and I just couldn't really, you know, I didn't have that confidence to go and play or initiate that. And it stayed with me as I got older, even there's still elements of it now where if there's like a group of people and I'm within that group and I need to leave, I find it really difficult to say goodbye. I'm going, right? Because I may say it, and then one person next to me says, all right, bye, but nobody else hears. And so in terms of, like, not having that voice, I felt that through. Through a lot of my life. So I decided that, you know what I mean? Because when I was playing with my little dolls, I was like. It was different. I was. I was like, great. I was in charge. I was in control. But with other people, it wasn't. It wasn't like that at all. I don't know whether that's because people weren't understanding me or I don't know. But I know that I was very shy, and if I say that to people now, they just do not believe me at all. So as I got older, I realized that. I mean, I grew up in church, and from a very young age, we are up at the front and we have to recite Bible verses, sing, whatever, and. And, you know, I really liked that. I realized that I was not afraid. And I guess it's because of that kind of upbringing. And, you know, I used to play the piano and the violin, used to duets with. With my best friend, you know, be singing with my friends. And. And then as I got older, when I remember at 17, I. I was the choir conductor for the youth choir. And so when I was in that kind of on stage or in front of people, in control maybe, right then, you know, I was fine. And it was just something that, yeah, I have no problem being up here and talking to you people. But then when I come down off that, it's something completely different. Yeah. And you said that still reappears when I met you, he was up on stage talking. That's right. Which some people find quite bizarre because I do pump speaking training the people like this. I'm more like normal conversation. But put me on the stage and absolutely freak out. The other way around, you're fine on stage. But interesting enough, it was actually Michael Jackson that made me kind of think, oh, that now makes sense, because he was very. I remember him sort of saying, when he's on stage, then that's when he comes alive. That's, you know, that's where that's his forte. But outside of that is, you know, it's very difficult. And I'm like, yeah, that's me. I can do that. That is me. That's really interesting. So you found your Voice. You managed to start speaking again. Like I said, you know, you still have those, you know, other areas now. Funny enough, people don't would be surprised to realize. No. That I used to stammer as a child. Oh wow. I used to stammer. I know. Wow. I know. You wouldn't believe it, would you? Look at this gob now. So that was your child growing up just quickly before we go into our break. Was it. What age did you get into the whole fitness thing as well? Where did that come. Okay, so you know what I was, I actually loved PE at school. Loved it. And you know, I never had a letter to excuse me. From PE or anything like that. Right. You have to forward. I loved it. And you know, you know, obviously I was great at athletics. Always coming first or second. Right. Sports day. And, and so that passion then was, was, was started with sports. When I did my A levels and stuff. I actually worked as a sports. It's like a sports scheme where we were basically taught how to do. Taught how to do coaching and all of that kind of stuff. But then I was working in leisure center and then we went to a high tech gym. Right. Okay, I'm going to just cut you in there because I'm going to lean to the break. We're going to touch quickly back on that. 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As always, we'd happy for you to engage with us. To engage with us. Email us@presentersomensradiostation.com so today we are asking a question. How can we fall wildly in love with exercise? So we don't just start it and stop it, but we absolutely love it. It's a joy. And helping me to help you fall wildly in love with exercise. This is wonderful. Eugene Battle, just before the break, she'll tell us about how, you know, should ordinary personnel mean you. She has a problem. She's had her issues. We've all had them. Okay. She's not some miracle person. She's just like the rest of us. Wasn't able to speak at one point. Went through speech therapy, discovered exercise, had this wonderful gym. Just tell us what you're saying there. I know. So I had to cut you in very quickly. Yeah, it was at a time at the end of the 80s really where fitness became really, really big. You know, all leotards and all that kind of stuff. So I was, I was chosen to work in the high tech gym and that had all of the cardiovascular exercises that you see today, like the treadmill, the running machine, the row machine, stepper and, you know, and I just loved it. And then I moved on to, while working at the leisure center, to teaching aerobics. And that was when I'm on a platform and I'm looking out. I've got like probably about 50 women and they're all looking at me, smiling, loving me. I'm loving being up there, loving them. And it's just, it was just amazing. So this is how it all tied in. So that whole thing, that whole performance thing where you loved being on stage, now he is in an aerobic studio. And it's kind of achieving the same things as where you've found your voice and where you're comfortable and happy. Yeah. And this is the, the beauty of it is like regardless of how I felt before and could have been miserable, had a bad day, whatever, as soon as that music starts, it's like, hey, let's go. See, that's the difference though, Eugenie, is between say, yourself and me. And as I'm doing this, I mean, I did do a health transformation and I'll talk about that a bit later on. But I know the people like me who would don't want to go to the front of the class. I'M at the back somewhere and I just absolutely hated it. I absolutely hated exercise. So there were a whole load of us, you know, we didn't feel like you did, who went up the front and absolutely loved it. And these are the people I want to help today. Can you help me help them? Yeah. You know, here's the thing. There's. There's activity, right? And activity is, is like being active throughout your day. So it could be like walking up the stairs, you know, not standing on the escalator, things like just moving, gardening, housework, things that you normally do, daily activities, which is fine and that's how we should be living. Anyway, exercise is different because usually people exercise for a reason. And although, you know, there's people who may not like it, I believe they just haven't found the right exercise for them. And, you know, when people think, right, I've got to get in shape or I've got to exercise or this, that and the other, it's, it's usually right, I need to join a gym. But the gym isn't for everyone. A lot of people hate the gym and rightly so. There's, you know, it can be very intimidating if you don't know what you're doing there as well. And sometimes, particularly these days as well, you ask somebody and they want money before they tell you the answer. And, and I'm, I just believe that, you know what, you don't need a gym to get fit, to be healthy. You can work out at home in the park. Just depends on what you actually like. And probably the best weights to use is your own body. And you don't need to have lots of equipment, you just need really yourself as bare basics. But you do need to find something that you really enjoy. Okay, so before we go into that, I just want to deal with some of the challenges first before we sort of see what we can do about it. So there's that one, I'm not going to mention their name, but there's that bike on the advert at the moment and on the television adverts at the moment and there's someone speaking to you and it's all governed by artificial, artificial intelligence, AI. And you can not sure if you've seen it and it's cycling this. They're talking back to you and it all looks very exciting. Do you know what I mean? Like you could be a part of this group now and it's all tech and all the rest of it, but it does make me think, here we go. Not another one of These bicycles that just end up dusty in the garage. I mean, what are your views on this? Yeah, that's the thing. I think most of the stuff you buy, whether it's on shopping channels or any other, you know, place, wherever, you have to have that mindset before you can make good use of it. And this is the problem with infomercials. Then you see them, you think, oh, yeah, I can do that. And it never happens. But I'm like, yeah, is it one of those things? It's an expensive one, but I haven't looked up the price. But it's extortionate. Yeah, but it could well be. Well be that it just ends up in the garage. But it comes down to mindset. And, and the other thing is about this is what I believe. You have to build exercise into your day. You have to. It can't be like a separate thing where, okay, I'm now going to go to the gym or now I'm going to exercise now, or I don't want to, but I'm going to have to. It has to be part of your life. And the reasons why you do it is because you know what, you're looking further ahead and you want to make sure that your future is healthy, you know, disease free, all of that. And so a machine is not necessarily going to do that for you. You have to get things right up, up here in your mind first before you can, you know. Yeah. Before spending money on something. Because that is why. That is why they just end up, you know, in the garage. I forgot about those. The shopping channels as well. Yeah. Got neighbors addicted to that. But I mean. Yeah, you do have a fair point then. And it's funny, I think what you're saying is what I've always said with any kind of change is that you've got to make it a part of your identity. Yeah, really. And I think this is the problem, isn't it? We see many things, even public speaking. What I teach, I say that, you know, it's not something that you do, it's something that you are. You are. Exactly. And is that the same sort of thing? But then that's the difficulty, isn't it? Because it was something that you were naturally sort of thing. Yes. And for the likes of me, it wasn't who I was. It was so not my identity, and it wasn't. And I tried desperately for. For many years. You know, you see people and I know what's happened when they see those bikes. It's like, yes, yes, I can do it. And the energy is there and the excitement and the mindset's there. But it comes along and you do it one or two times, and then we do just quit because it's not a part of our identity. How do we. What would be your tip and advice in this realm? To make it a part of your life? Because it's very hard. We know you mentioned the health benefits. We all know that, but we're still stuck. Well, I would say that you definitely have to do something that you enjoy, right. And that may mean that you have to try different things, but it has to be something that you can say, okay, you know what? I actually really enjoy this. And the thing about exercise is that you may not even enjoy it at first, but once you start getting better at it, beating it, once you start feeling that, you know, it's making a difference, then come. There's that kind of, like, motivation to do more that comes with it. That's a problem, though, isn't it? It takes a while to see that difference. It can. It depends. I mean. Okay. I teach samba as well. Oh, right. Okay. Now that looks like fun. It's so much fun. I call it exercise in disguise. It's amazing, right? You need to come to one of my classes, and it's. It's. I'll bring women's radio station with me. Yeah. So the thing is, it's like, with that I see women come and they're like, you know, my friends said I need to do this or whatever, music goes on, big smile comes on my face, and we start. But the thing about it is, with my class, anyway, it's a community class, but it's not about having people, like, just kind of showing off and, you know, and being at the front because they're the best or anything like that. It's like, you know, what you do what you can do, I'm gonna do what I'm doing. You follow? But if you can't do everything, it's fine. Even if you stand in there and just like, clicking your fingers, going side to side in the great rock here, then that moves. Then that's absolutely fine. Right. Enjoy the music. And so. And so once I get that across and you can see people's faces are just smiling and they're enjoying it, and they don't. They. And the moves are kind of sexy and so on. So they're not really realizing that they are exercising. And are they exercising is exercise. Well, I'm coming from a fitness background, so absolutely, yes. So the moves that I do even Though they feel that they're just dancing, there's a reason for it. There's an and a reason for every move that I do and obviously whether it's squatting or abs or whatever. But. Okay, another question before we go to the break. So we may have every intention of going, but we know how the brain works. And I talk about the Rumpelstiltskin in our brains. You may have to answer this in the next section. We have this Rumpelstiltskin our brain and you have all the intention in the world. I'm go to that zombie class and go to the gym. I'm going to try running, which all these marvelous things. But Rumpelstiltskin, that nuisance in your head will say, like what? Some of the excuses that come out with I can't because you tell me what time. Time. Time's one you got in money. It could be just, you don't understand the lack of skill, knowledge, that kind of thing. Because you, you know, there's also things like, I mean, just things like too tired, too tired, you know, and, and this is why, you know, don't go home first. Go straight to the gym or straight to your class. Okay, well, let's look at, when we come back, let's look at some of the ways we can overcome those doubts. We can challenge back Rumpelstor skin. That noise in our head telling us a whole load of nonsense and keeping us away from our glory. We'll talk about that when we get back off the break. Stay with us. We are here with the wonderful smiling, awesome aura Eugenie Burton. She's helping us. Helping me help you fall wildly back in love with exercise. 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I'm spoiling you rotten. I have the wonderful Eugenie Burton with me and she's helping me to help you to fall wildly in love with exercise. Isn't this marvelous? So just for the book, we were saying, talking about some of the excuses, I know all these. Well, you know, she's talking to me really because I was like, no sand down. I changed my life around at age 50. Guys. It's all possible. It's never too late. We talked about time, money, lack of skill, too tired, childcare, safety. Don't like it, just don't like it. I don't like exercise. That comes up a lot. No support. But what I want to touch on was environment because I always believe there's two things that keeps us away from our goals and that is self belief and your environment. What are your, what do you feel about that? No. 100%, I think. And because it goes both ways as well. Because you have people who do decide to make a change and that environment that around them, the people, friends, family can really just put them off. And so let me talk about this bit first. So basically it's like you might have heard it yourself, oh, you've gone too far now. Oh, you need to stop. Or like, you know, just like, just take this chocolate biscuit or whatever, you know, it's not just, it's just one those kind of things. I, I just, they, they really riled me because it's not really about the person who is making changes, it's about the person who's saying it because they see their friend changing and they're not used to it and so they don't necessarily have the same commitment and drive that, that their friend has to get the results. And so it's kind of like bringing them back to their normality, right? What they can, what they're comfortable with rather than supporting and encouraging their friend to actually continue. And it's really quite sad really, because healthy, being healthy is like, it's kind of negative. It's a negative thing. You know, if you, you're going to order A salad, people laugh at you. And, and it's, and so your environment is really, really important because that can actually make or break you. But you have to kind of, like you said, you have to be, you know, strong minded really to keep going. So there's that. Then the other thing is in terms of the environment, which is a negative environment, is that you have constantly around you things like maybe a kebab shop next to a chicken shop next to like, you know, and it just goes on and on and on. And that's the environment that we walk in up and down and then we see like all. Loads of cake shops and dessert shops that are open now screaming at you. Yeah. Like, come here my cool one. And, and it's like. And so it's really hard to kind of say, to say no to that. And it's. And, and yes, we do have like this, you know, healthy thing going on. But if that's not where you're at, if usually the healthy person is in adverts is already there and you don't really see the person at their beginning stage. Right. And so can they identify with that? Is it too far of a step to take? And so sometimes it's just easier just to not do anything quite. Yeah. Some important things you mentioned there, projecting other people, projecting their limitations on you, like it's not about you, it's the limitations they have in their mind and they project that onto you. Don't be so stupid what you're doing. Exactly. And, and the environment. When I did my transformation, my son wasn't there yet, so it was difficult. There's two types of food and everything in the house. But. So I wanted to talk about that and. Yes. And going into the shops, you know, it was really hard. I've got a sweet tooth, you know. You don't have a sweet tooth. No. Okay. That's a lie. That's a lie. You have a sugar addict. I have a sugar addiction. Well, to be honest with you, and this is one of the things we just probably cover everything in this show. I sometimes say to people we need to go to the source of the issue, which is what's met. Because I mind was stressed while I was eating. It manifested itself through food kind of thing. So one of the things that manifested itself was the cakes. I loved cakes and they would scream at me in the shops like, eat me, eat me, eat me. But it's weird, I always feel that that in itself is a muscle that you're trying to build, isn't it? What would you Say to that you're not good. Go, go. Don't have to agree. Walk on. No, no, I do think that that is there to it is because if you think about sugar as an addiction, then you would treat it as an addiction. Right, I'm with you. So it's not something where it's like, oh, yeah, I have no control. Well, no, but if you're not seeing it as an addiction. Right. Does that make sense? Yes, it does indeed. Yeah. Yeah. And I think we, we so easily look at things like shopping addiction, sex addictions and all the other addictions that people have. We don't realize that food in itself is, is actually being used to comfort another area, isn't it? Absolutely. Yeah. So do you deal with all that in your whole lifestyle? Yeah, well, I don't go deep into the, into it like that. Right. However, I do look at eating behaviors. I do look at like eating triggers and white are we, you know, what triggers you to do something or to eat something. Yeah. And how we can like try and get over that. The other thing you touched on a minute ago and I think is what I think is really important is imagery. Because the imagery out there at the moment does show people at the place where they're at. They haven't shown that process, although I did show the process in my own journey and encountered other problems. But we'll touch on that a bit later on. But my concern is that the imagery typically shows the white middle class woman doing things like yoga, doing most healthy type things. So many people of, you know, from other races, different disability, different genders and all the rest that just don't identify with these pictures and almost feel, well, that's not for them. And that's a worry for me sometimes. What's your view on that? Yeah, the thing is, I think what I will say is that I think like local government, like the. If there still are such things as council gyms. Right. I think they're all like. I think there's different companies. Yeah, I think, I think different companies are, are running them now. Before it was like the local government was running them. Yeah. I, what I've noticed is they're using different people in their advertising. Okay. They start to change in that. Yeah. Oh, that's good. However, that's not always what you see. So what you see is more the private companies and in there they're already that those are like you said that there's a specific type of person that's in those adverts. But then depending on the area that's not always who the customer is. And the thing about it is, it's like when you see different races in there or even like people with disabilities, it's kind of. You always see them like people in a wheelchair, for example, playing basketball in a wheelchair. Yeah, right. You don't see doing yoga and stuff. No, yeah, very able to do many of them. Indeed. And, and even elderly people, you know, it's like they're, you know, I remember when I was working in. When I was working in, in the leisure center and it was like we rolled out the bowls map for the over 50s club. And I laugh now because I'm like, there is no way I'm going to. We couldn't do that. Right. But it's like, you know, and I think what we need to do or what needs to happen is. Yeah, absolutely. More diversity. These posh gyms, they need to open up a little bit more and include more people. I can't really say what the staff makeup is like, but, you know, I haven't, have I? Yes, I have worked in a private gym, but then, no, the staff was. Was quite, was quite varied. It was quite diverse. But yeah. And again, I think that it's about looking at the reasons why you. Why you want to exercise and try and I know it's difficult, but try and overcome what you see and say, you know what, I'm here for me. I'm here for myself. I'm doing this for me. So regardless of what's out there, this is a gym I'm going and I'm going to use. Yeah. And I remember once speaking to a young lady who was going through stress at the time and in her workplace and they have a lot of these workplace initiatives now and they did yoga and she felt it wasn't for her. I remember she said, oh, you know, oh, that's for the white people. I was like, no, you can't think that. And the yoga would have been so beneficial for her. So these images they do in a, you know, unconsciously kind of control our minds. We've, like you said, just got to slow down our thinking and think like, there's some huge benefits here. So let's go for it. What? Sorry? No, no, I was gonna say and try anything, try everything. Because I think sometimes we get to a point where that is not for me. That is not for me. It's like, well, why not? Why not go and do it and try it and, you know, you may surprise yourself. And so I think about fist because fear kicks in, doesn't it and that's the problem. But yeah, I think I spoke about this in one of my other programs the other day that the box always seems a lot bigger than it actually is. Once you get picked the box up, it was like it's never, it's never so bad. So you're listening to Ingrid Marsh. I'm here with the lovely Eugenie Burton. We're helping you to not just get back exercising and you know, really being honest about some of the challenges that we're facing, but not just get back to exercise, but absolutely loving it. And she picked up some really wonderful key points here. Like, you know, try something you haven't tried before. And I know that's tough. I know that is truly tough to do something you haven't done before. But you never know. This could be it. You could be the next Zumba teacher. Exactly. And they don't know this. The whole thing. I also want to touch when we get back and the show's coming so quickly to an end, which is such a shame about the whole as people now always just think about diet. So exercise as diet to be slim. That kind of annoys me. How do you quickly, very quickly figure out? Okay, yeah, no, I mean first of all, diets don't work anyway. Okay, that's number one. There are so many benefits to exercise. And I mean what I will say is there are some people that do benefit from both. They do need to lose weight in order to feel happy. But you can feel happy all by yourself. You don't need to lose weight. You don't need to do this or do that. You can be happy all by yourself. 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And with me today is the wonderful for Eugenie Burton, helping me to help you fall wildly back in love with exercise. Before the break, we quickly touched on the whole dieting thing. You know, it doesn't work. And Eugenie kind of reminded us that look, it's, we need a plan B around that one. And we also just talked about some of the challenges that we face, some of the lies, I call them that Rumpelstiltskin, that little tyrant in our brain will tell us as to why we can't live well and be well and just, you know, be happy through and loving this. Let's just touch back on that again. Let's go a bit further. Some of the other excuse that people come out with time, money, lack of skill, too tired, let's pick one of those childcare, let's pick one of those and let's help break down that barrier in their mind. Okay? So time is probably one of the biggest ones, right? And, and the thing is we have this thing that we have to go to the gym and spend an hour there and that is just so not true. There was a study done by a Japanese doctor who basically just found that you can do a four minute exercise and it has the same effect as a 20 minute run. Oh, wow. Yeah. Love him. Yeah. Thank you so much. They named it after him. It's called Tabata, right? T A B A T A. And basically it's just like 20 seconds of activity, 10 seconds rest, and that's eight. You do that eight times. Done. I've been doing that. I had an injury earlier this year. I've been doing that. My husband bought me a mini trampoline and I've just been running on that trampoline doing Tabata. Four minutes on, 10 seconds, 20 seconds on, 10 seconds off. And it was the only thing that I could do to help me shift the weight that I put on now. So four minutes in the morning, four minutes anytime. Come on, it's not that long. Right? So even if you don't have the time to do it. You can kind of run up and down the stairs, you know, a couple of times when before you go. So I think there's. You don't have to go to the gym first of all because that takes up a lot of time. You can do stuff at home and just do like a quick exercise, just do something and it's going to be better than nothing and you can build up on that and then, you know, even with money again, stay at home and exercise at home, right? That is like I personally think one of the best places that you can exercise because it's there, it's free, you can just wake up in the morning and do it in your pajamas, right? So, you know, you cut down a lot of the barriers that are there of getting ready and going and all of that. Putting the kids to bed first, whatever and talking to kids, childcare, like that's a, that's a big one. But if you go to a gym, unless they've got a creche, that is a huge, a huge barrier. But take them down to the park, right? And obviously depends on the age, right? But take them down the park, get on the slides and the climbing frames yourself, you know, and run, run with them. Don't just be like the spectator when it comes to play and get them involved as well because if you are, see if they see you exercising at home then they're going to be in their mind, they're going to think that this is a normal thing to do. So when they get older they're going to exercise themselves. I used to teach, go and do mobile and I used to mobile personal training and you know, mothers who've got kids at home and you see the kids doing the same thing that the mum's doing and it's like, you know that they're going to continue that. I must admit, even for my own parenting, I think to myself, I mean Max has now made his own transformation which is fantastic. And he's 18. Made about a year ago. But I remember thinking if this was because everything is habit, right? It's all about creating new habits. And this is what loved, what I loved about your four minute Tabata. Yes, I believe I remember that was that it's just four minutes because it's all about just building those small increments. But yeah, I always think that with. If it starts from young, it becomes a part of their identity. So when we see people just making it so natural, it's literally just become part of their identity, hasn't it. So what I'd love you to do for us and for my lovely listeners, is to give us three radical wellbeing tips as to how we can get over these hurdles in our mind and fall wildly back in love with exercise again. Okay, so first of all, I'm glad you said in your mind, because that's where it starts. It's all there, isn't it? It's all in the mind and it's all about changing that mindset. And don't. And look at it, you know, like when you get up in the morning, you want to go to work, or you don't want to go to work actually, but you get up and you do it anyway. And it's the same with exercise. You may not want to do it, but you know what? Get up, do it anyway. And you'll be glad you did because of the dopamines and all of that. It releases and you're going to feel great. So that's not really my first one, but my first one is like, try an exercise in the morning. Try and build it into your day. Let it be something that you just do. The same way you brush your teeth. In fact, when you are brushing your teeth, you can do squats there, hey, right in that bathroom. You know, put your hands on the side of the bath and do some squats, do some like tricep dips, you know, build it in and you keep doing it and it gets to the point where that's it, you've done it, it's there. It's part of what you do. Number one, do it first thing in the morning. Do it first thing in the morning. Number two is if you're not sure what to do, check out YouTube, alright? Or if you are a member of the gym, go to a gym and just try any exercise, every class, right? And then also look and see if there's any classes that happen in the community and just try different things. Everyone, I suggest you go and try Zumba and you just might be surprised. Number and number three, I'd say, you know, just start with something. No, sorry. Need accountability. You need accountability. Get a friend to call you every day to say, have you exercised? Get somebody to go with you and to exercise with you. Do it, you know, now you've got Skype and whatever, you can do it together, but get that accountability so you are accountable to somebody and that person is going to be chasing you to make sure that you get it done. Fabulous. Fabulous, fabulous. And Eugenie Burton, if they want to get in touch with you and have your vibrant spirit. Help them to forward you back in love with excise. How do they get in touch with you? Okay, so first we go to my website, designed number2.com so it's designedtolive.com and the 2 is a number 2. It's the number 2, right? Designed ed number2.com. You can also find me on social media, esigntolive and that's, you know, Instagram, Twitter, just I'm on everything. And, and then also you can email me@unstuckesignedtolive.com I love it, I love it, I love it. Eugenie, you are fabulous. You are radical and you are absolutely superb. Thank you so very much. You're welcome. In closing, my darlings, of course there's the Ingrid style. The Ingrid says. And what I want to say to you guys is this. The Swiss psychologist Carl Jung, he says that within every one of us there is a warrior archetype. And I truly believe if you were like me and just absolutely hated exercise, never exercised, just despised it. And I know there's many of us out there, I feel this. When you need to tap into that warrior that is within all of us, it will make you strong, it will make you brave, it will give you courage and it will make you fearless. And I can tell you next, I did my own 30 day transformation. I created a new habit and I did a bit every day. And if you log into my website, IngridMarsh.com you'll see my transformation and you'll see that I moaned like every day for the first two weeks, two, three weeks, I moaned. It wasn't easy, it was hard. But this is when we tap into that warrior in us to overcome it. And I tell you what, it is so worth it because it's life. And I think sometimes that's the problem with life. We want it always to be easy. But there's no growth when it's easy, you know, there's no, you know, I see. It's like love. We want to do something and that. And it's hard at the beginning, it feels very hard. But once you power through it, the strength you have afterwards, it's like I approached that with life. Now. Whenever something feels hard, I have fears like you do. Whenever something feels hard, I tap into that warrior in me and overcome it, climb it. And the feeling at the end is truly spectacular. You're Jenny hitting some really great points there about making it a part of your identity. When you remember that everything is a habit okay, you're creating a new habit she touched on also. It will get easier. Anything in life if you just do a little bit. Four minutes just gave us this wonderful answer. Four minutes. That little bit every day, A little bit. Just one degree increment every single day. And absolutely, you know, magic will happen, I can assure you. And you will grow from the pain. Okay. This is where the growth comes from. And the other thing I discovered, which was absolutely crazy, so don't beat yourself up is the thing. Do not beat yourself up. There's some wonderful research I discovered by this Harvard evolutionary biologist rather called Daniel Lieberman, who said, well, really it's hard because we weren't really meant to exercise. Eugenie said it right at the beginning. It was. Movement was just a part of our life. We used to have to run and hunt for food. So we almost wanted to conserve our energy to rest. So this is what we're in at the moment. We're in the this moment, this feeling where we want to conserve our energy. It's just that we're not running and hunting for food anymore. So we're not running from lions. We're built within us. This fight or flight response and fight or flight was because we were built to be running from lions, to hunt food. Well, in the park, there are no lions. Okay. So we have to create another form of motivation to get there. But by not moving, by not doing these things, we are impacting our whole life. I know I had to do it because I was mentally strong, but I wasn't physically strong. And eventually the mental strength started falling down too. So I do it not for the whole Keep Slim Brigade thing. I do it to keep myself strong so I have the strength to power through. We have to protect our minds. You are beautiful beyond words. You can do it. Do not beat yourself up. Get back on that horse and just do a little bit every day. You listen to myself here at, here in Grimshire. Sorry. 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