Eat Love Do – Noami Buff, The Healing Power Of Cacao And Sound Baths

Hi and welcome to the Eat Love Do Show. I am Janine Newbery and this show is exclusive to Women's Radio Station. You can find us on all our social medias @WomensRadioStn. That's Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. I had to think for a minute there. And do follow us on our YouTube channel, hit that like and subscribe button because it really helps us and we love it when you support us. I have got a fantastic guest on for you today. Each week I chat to an expert who will be sharing their knowledge and goals on on how you can eat, love, and do more health, wealth, and happiness into your life. And today's guest, you're going to absolutely love her. Her name is Naomi Buff. She is a holistic wellbeing expert and she's absolutely incredible at what she does. She's one of those beautiful, beautiful souls that's just as beautiful on the outside as she is on the inside. And I had the pleasure of meeting her at an event last week, completely fell in love with her at our first meeting. I was like, ah, fellow healer, wonderful. And she's just gorgeous. So I had to get her on the show, and, um, I think you're gonna absolutely love her. So Naomi, welcome to the show! Hello and thank you, and there is like an equal amount of love coming straight back to you. It was so lovely to connect with you last week, and I feel like I've known you forever. Yes, well, I honestly thought I'd known you forever, and your friend that we had lunch with the other day. Anyway, I digress. Do you want to just tell people a little quick, quick sort of thing about what you do, um, and then we'll get chatting. Yeah, absolutely. So I've been working in holistic well-being for about just over 10 years now, and I started off in nutrition, um, as an integrative, uh, holistic nutrition coach. And that kind of went in like— it was going much more down like the nutrition route where I was doing, um, I was writing menus and rolling out healthy eating menus to hotels and restaurants. I was living in the South of France time. Um, and I was coaching women, I was selling like products. It was very much nutrition-based, but for where I was, it was needed at that time. And then I moved back to the UK, um, and I was a little bit— I don't think I'd have wanted to leave the south of France, to be honest. Like, get me there right now. You would have done a deal with my ex-husband, that's for sure. Moving on. And I felt a bit bored by it. So I kind of like plotted along. I had a product range as well, so I was promoting my product. I got that into Harrods, so that was really positive. Didn't really like the food industry. I didn't feel that was in alignment with me. Um, so everything felt really disjointed. And then it was at the beginning of 2020 that I had this a bit of an epiphany in a sound bath, and it's like, oh, this is what I need to be doing. So literally straight after that, luckily before the lockdowns, I I did like my training, um, and I did, uh, like 1 out of 3 of the Reiki trainings that I then went on to do. And amazing. Before you carry on, do you want to just explain to people what a sound bath is for people that don't know? Yes, absolutely. Good point. So sound bath is, um, first of all, you keep your clothes on. It's not that type of party. People always ask, do I have to get naked? I'm like, nah. Probably are those types of events out there, but that's not my, that's not my bag of biscuits. Maybe that's a sound bath combined with a tantra. Yeah, exactly. Tantra bath. Oh, just created a new product. The possibilities are endless. So sound bath is, so everybody's like laying down, it's like in a shavasana position. So you want to be like really comfortable. So blankets, maybe like a bolster under your knees if you get lower back issues. Pillow can be nice as well, eye mask. So you really want to like be feeling really safe, secure, and like comforted. And then I guide in with like a little bit of meditation and I use bowls, gongs, and various other tinkly little instruments and bits and bobs to create a sound experience. And the idea of that is that sound vibration has been used for thousands of years and it brings you into a deeper state of relaxation. So what it actually does is it has the ability to reset and recalibrate your nervous system. It, it helps to promote relaxation, relieves tension, anxiety, depression, helps with insomnia, helps to alleviate physical pain. It's just, it is just incredible. If you're more spiritual, it can like take you off into other dimensions. It can help to release like past traumas as well. I have lots of clients who like literally will release childhood traumas that they've had like years worth of therapy on that just hasn't accessed it. But the sound vibration, because it works on a cellular level, it really like unblocks and just clears like stagnant energy. And it's, it really is clearing the pathway. I mean, it's a real, it's a tool that we can use to really heal ourselves. To, to clear what's not serving us. Because when we, when we release what's not serving us, and that makes space for all of the amazing things that we want to, um, manifest and attract into our lives so that we can step into our power and into who we truly want to be. It's brilliant, isn't it? I, um, I did my gong as well because I'd attended Sound Baths, and I just— it was just so incredible. And just, you feel like kind of like this, um, calmness, and you flow out of there. And it is deep, deep healing work. It's absolutely amazing. So I'm excited to be sharing this. If anyone's not tried a sound bath, then honestly, go try one. It's gonna rock your world. And go try one with Naomi, obviously. Yeah, I always say that it's life-changing. You never come out the same person that you, that you go in. No, like, people will come in and say, um, that it felt like a an hour, like, laying down, they'll say, oh, it felt like I was— I've had— I've been on a retreat for a weekend. So I just feel it's something that everybody should be doing on a regular basis because we're all living in this highly stressed world where we're completely, like, fragmented. Our energy is all over the place. But really, like, this— what this is doing is it's just kind of bringing you back together, just to press that reset button. So needed. It's a really gentle way of healing as well, isn't it? Without that— because I think sometimes people get scared when it does healing. When they think about healing or anything that's to do with sort of mental health and stuff like that, that it can shut down. But I think a sound bath's a really nice introduction into that and really powerful. Yeah. And it sort of takes all that fear out because you just got to like, you just lay there and enjoy it. Yeah. And you do enjoy it. It's an absolutely amazing experience. It literally washes over you, the sound. That's why they call it sound bath, I guess. Wash me, wash me with the sound loveliness. And I think you get healed as well when you're doing it, when you're, because obviously you're still doing this, you know, absorbing all the sound when you're the practitioner as well. So you're just like constantly healing yourself and putting yourself into that heart space, aren't you? Like every time you do it, which is amazing too. Oh no, just working with intention. When we like bring intention into sound and into Kakau, it just amplifies and magnifies it. So whenever I'm working with sound, I'm working with the intention for the greatest and highest good of anybody who is in my, in my space. I'm opening that space, um, and then it's always— it's coming into like a high vibration. So even though I'm holding the space for others, I'm still plugged into that frequency of like a high vibration. So where you said it's healing you as well, it doesn't— the more I heal myself and the more my vibration and frequency is raising, that the more I can help others. So It's a beautiful little cycle. Tell us a little bit about the cacao ceremonies. You just, you just touched on cacao then. I know you do the ceremonies, so I think that'd be really interesting for people that haven't done it. You want to share with us what it is, what the benefits are, why, why we should, why somebody might want to try one? Oh my God, absolutely. So I've been working with cacao for about 10 years and I actually teach people how to make raw chocolate in 5 minutes with 5 ingredients. Literally life-changing. That sounds incredible. I see you, I'm gonna bring you a box of chocolates. It will change your life. You'll never— you will be like, have a bit of Dairy Milk ever again in the whole— in my whole life. But you know, it's really funny because people always laugh when I say, oh, this chocolate's healthy. They always laugh because of like, we just associate chocolate with being, um, like sugary, overly processed stuff that we buy from supermarkets. In actual fact, like the origin of like chocolate before Cadbury's and Nestlé got their dirty hands on it, I mean, it's been used in ceremony for thousands of years and it is a plant medicine. And when we say like plant medicine, like people go, oh my God, am I going to get high? And in some ways you get high on the vibes of love, but that's as far as it goes. It's not psychedelic. It's known as like a heart opening, like plant medicine. So in its purest, most natural form and in the cacao ceremony, we use like ceremonial grade. So this has been harvested with intention, with love, and it's high vibrational. So already you've got all of this intention that's come in, which is like one layer of it. But then the actual physical product, the cacao pod, is one of the most nutrient-dense foods on the planet. It's got more than 40 times the antioxidants in blueberries. It actually increases like the love chemicals in your body. It has potassium, iron, calcium. It's got more calcium than cow's milk, which is actually insane. It, it increases like bliss in your body. It's anti-aging as well because it's got so many antioxidants that we need antioxidants to fight free radical damage, which come in from all different sources, so like pollution, cigarette smoke, stress, alcohol, all of these different things are constantly like coming to us on a daily basis. And it's our job as a body to fight the free radical damage, because if we don't, then that's going to accelerate the aging process and it will cause disease and illness within the body. So antioxidants are so, so important in, in our diet. Because they're like the little warriors, which I see them as like, like fighting all of these free radicals. And cacao is really, really abundant in antioxidants. So it is actually anti-aging. So the moral of the story is eat chocolate, get younger. So yeah, in the cacao ceremony. So a cacao ceremony is it's a 3-hour experience where you drink like high quantities of cacao. So like 50 grams is like the max you want to be drinking. It takes about 30, 40 minutes to kind of get into the system and you drink on an empty stomach. The space is opened with like prayer, intention, blessings to the cacao. I always do like optional sharing as well because I think it's really powerful when you kind of like come together collectively when you share Why are you here? What do you want to let go of? What do you want to bring into your life? All of a sudden it makes you take responsibility for your journey, for what you want, and vocalizing. A lot of people don't actually have all of these things going on in their mind, but they never have like a safe space. But they go, well, you know what, I actually would really like to do this, this, or this. So it was kind of like giving people the safe space to speak openly and to say, yeah, this is what I want, which is where all of the deep work starts to happen. So the Kakao is like by this stage running through the blood. And it's— people usually feel like a little bit buzzy or maybe like a little bit gently wired, not wired like you're doing with coffee, but it's just like you can feel it in, you can feel it in you. And actually when you drink it in high quantities, it increases the blood flow to the heart and to the brain by about 40 to 60%. So it's known as like the heart opening plant medicine. So everything that I do is all about like taking this into the heart space and just like healing, healing like the fragmented parts. I mean, like, we've all gone through like heartbreak at least once, probably like numerous times, maybe like more times than we can count. And even like, but we think about heartbreak just being like a romantic or an intimate partner, but we can get heartbreak from like friends, from our children, from our parents. I get brokenhearted if somebody does my coffee in the wrong way, you know. But there's always these like, where's my heart? Where's my love? It's like all of these different like part, all of these different triggers where we've got our heart. If you see our heart as home, there's that bits that are being broken off in all of these different directions. And like, and then what we do is as soon as like we feel that heartbreak, like we just want to protect ourselves. No, nobody else is going to get in here. So then we build a cage around our heart and then it makes it harder to love and it makes it harder to be loved. Um, so this is what I'm working with. This is my intention. It's like, okay, let's crack this heart open and just bring in this pure, infinite, unconditional love and just pull all of those fragmented pieces of, of your heart that have been like lost along the way. Just bring it all back to just be whole and just to be, just to like really just to feel that vibration of unconditional love. Most important relationship that we have is the relationship that we have with ourselves. I mean, everybody else in our life is always like changeable, like partners, like kids come and go, don't they? Um, parents are here, they're gone. But the only one person who is a solid person in our life is ourselves, and that's the person who we don't actually give that attention to. So my intention for this is just going, you know what, if if you want, if you want beautiful relationships, you have to start with this relationship with yourself, healing yourself from a cellular level, from a heart, heart place, rather than just with, I'm going to take this supplement, I'm going to go to the gym. That, this is all like surface layer stuff. And whilst that is all really important and it's going to help us feel better, it's going to help us feel healthier, it's Healing is like, it's a layered approach. Okay, we have to go through like layers, levels, and dimensions and look at it as a whole rather than, well, I'm doing my sit-ups and I'm drinking the green smoothie, but what— why am I not— why am I not healing? Why am I not feeling healthy? Why am I not feeling happy? It's about looking at it as a whole, which is, as you know, like the whole holistic approach. 100%. I'm totally with you on that as well. And I love that you, you think heartbreak, it's not just about our intimate partners as well. It's friends, family, I guess anyone that we lose from our life or we feel has let us down, that can create heartbreak. So I love that. I forgot to say, actually, so the second part of the— I went off on a tangent— the second part of the session is, um, a heart meditation, um, sound bath, and then healing, hands-on healing. I do my Reiki, and then it ends with like a little bit of celebration and like shaking out like the energy with music, um, and then sharing a circle and then closing, and then everybody like floats home. Um, but yes, coming to the next one, coming to your graveyard on the 2nd of February, um, 2023. So did I say 2nd? Sorry, 5th of February. It's just a few days before my birthday. Everybody wants to —your birthday card, 8th of February. Absolutely, I'll be sending you a birthday card and a big packet of cacao. You sell cacao, don't you? Because you were telling me last week that you also do like a morning ritual. So great if people can come along and do your ceremony, but if they can incorporate something in that they can do each, each morning, do you want to share a little bit on the morning ritual you do? Because this is something people could do at home starting now, really. Yeah, absolutely. This is something that you can start, um, like start tomorrow. So I think like morning routine is so important, and, um, we spend like our days like dedicating all of our time to others. Um, so like what I find that's really powerful and really beneficial for like my mental, physical, and emotional like health is my morning routine and ritual. So I'll always set my alarm earlier and I don't want this to alarm or put anybody off, but I always, I have like an hour like before my day starts which is completely dedicated to me. Now this is, I've built this up over like probably over like the last 10 years of where, um, where I've like tried different things, uh, like meditations, um, like exercise, loads of different things over the years, um, but this is, this is what works for me and I kind of like change it around. So I like to start, I like to do gratitude. So I've got like a little book next to my bed. So I do like one page with things I'm grateful for in my life right now. And then the next page is things that I'm, I want to attract into my life that aren't in my life at the moment. I will write them in the present tense as if that happened right here, right now. So that's my gratitude. So that's one element. I do my cacao. So the cacao is really beautiful because it's all about like giving thanks. It's about intention. It's opening the heart. So as I'm making my cacao, I'll be giving thanks for the spirit of cacao, this plant medicine that's coming in to open my heart. I'm setting my intentions just for a beautiful day. Most of the time it's just like, just align me with like love and miracles today. I mean, what else do you need? So when you say you're making your cacao, do you mean you're making it like a hot chocolate? Kind of. Yeah, kind of. I'll do— I'll send you a video. There's a few different ways I do it. I've actually— the cacao that I'm doing at the moment is like Bulletproof. I love like biohacking. I mean, this is like a Bulletproof cacao. So it's like the ceremonial grade cacao with just water and a collagen powder, either MCT oil or coconut oil. And then I've got like a blend of like 7 different medicinal mushrooms such as like chaga, maitake, reishi, lion's mane. I can't remember a couple of other ones in there as well. And it's just a blend that I mix up myself. So that goes in a pinch of salt and some vanilla. So there's no sugar. It's like it's a high fat, which is what the biohacking is all about. The one element of it, and I like to do intermittent fasting, so it kind of like works with that and it's just, just done with water. So it's really super simple. And actually I keep it next to my bed. I'll do this. Wake up to it. I love that. Do you want to just like you shared a couple of stuff there, like the mushrooms, the like nootropics and the good, like they've got health benefits. Do you want to just share a little bit on what that is? Because I'm sure there's some people listening that are like, what on earth is all that she's just talked about? Absolutely. Well, again, like, just like talking about like the mushrooms, people go, oh my God, like psychadelics and it's not, it's not that type of— Why is there a giant turtle in my bed? No, these like the medicinal mushrooms, they are, they're like adaptogens. So adaptogens have been around for thousands of years and have grown in like really extreme climates or conditions. And in order to survive, they have to adapt to their environment. So when we, when we take adaptogens, they help our bodies adapt to stress essentially. And I think I love the mushrooms because they're really high in antioxidants, really great for the immune system, really great for brain function. They help like a lot of mushrooms. And this is not— please don't quote me on this, do your own research. But mushrooms are being used in terms of like treating cancers as well and shrinking like growth and cancerous growths. But that's something for people to get professional advice on and not take this as advice. It's just a general generalization on that. So there's loads of benefits and they're kind of like coming a little bit more readily available now. When I first started using these, when I developed my products, probably, my gosh, like that was nearly 10 years ago now. They were practically unheard of. And now you can, you can, you can get them in like coffees. You can get like there's a brand of coffee that has like chaga in it. You can get ashwagandha, which is another adaptogen. It's not a mushroom, it's an Indian herb. But I mean, ashwagandha is one of the most researched herbs. And I definitely recommend if anybody's got any issues, just Google ashwagandha and you'll probably see that it it would, it would work for, it would work for that symptom. I mean, it's great for things like menopause, perimenopause, like, like for brain function, memory. And always like, what about your memory? I need to up my dose. It's really, really good. And it's great for insomnia, depression, anxiety. It's literally, it ticks all of those boxes. So yeah, adaptogens are, it's like Nature's Pharmacy. So they're really specific. I started taking ashwagandha because I'm definitely perimenopausal. I'm having like the night sweats and everything and lots of the symptoms of perimenopause. I started taking that. I take one in the morning, one in the evening, like a blend, and it stopped. All the symptoms have gone, they've subsided, and it's absolutely bloody fantastic. And it's like it just— I got my energy levels back, my libido, the night sweats went. So I I can't rave about that enough. So if you're in perimenopause or menopause, ladies, definitely get this into your diet as well. Yeah, absolutely. Even like chronic fatigue, insomnia, just it's— it is incredible. It's so powerful, isn't it? There's just like— and when you say nature's— yeah, there's so much we can heal our bodies with, just with natural products. I think we've kind of society got used to the fact that we take drugs and things like pharmaceuticals. Pharmaceutical drugs to fix things, and we've forgotten the old ways that actually work and just as powerful. And I think a lot of the drugs that are out there are actually based on natural stuff, and they take like little parts of the plant out and turn it into a tablet that people can take. Yeah, because if we went straight down to the source, we'd probably get the same benefits as well. But yes, as Naomi said, do your research on that. Absolutely. Yeah, everybody's so different, and it's definitely— if you're going to start to take anything, there's— I mean, obviously with any There's all— there can always be contraindications. So if you're going to take anything, do your research, speak to a health professional, and then go from there. But just— I think it's just really useful just to know that there are other options out there other than like the pharmaceuticals. I mean, I mean, I think that there's a time and place for pharmaceuticals, don't get me wrong, but I do feel that they're too heavily thrown upon us and we don't have— and I think what we need if we go to the doctor, what we need is actually time. But you're on the clock, you've got a couple of minutes and then you're just given a prescription. And usually the side effects can be worse than the issue that you go in there with. And I've suffered from— I'm okay now, actually. But I have for years, I've really suffered really, really badly with chronic fatigue syndrome.. And when I came back to the UK, I actually collapsed a couple of times and I thought I'd just go along to the doctors because I was back in, back in my country. I thought, let's just see. And I was so disappointed because they said, well, we've got a waiting list for you to be seen. You've got chronic fatigue syndrome. We've got a waiting list which would be 18 months. But in the meantime, go and take an antidepressant. So they gave it to me and I went and got the prescription and I didn't take it. I was fascinated by this and I started reading through all of the side effects., and I was chronically fatigued. And the side effect of taking this, this drug was fatigue. I'm like, and then I'm just going to go back and have like with my chronic fatigue and just get even more fatigued and just sit on the sofa for the next 18 months and wait for somebody to see me. So it was really fascinating just to see things from that perspective. And there was no support. There was, there was no help. I didn't even have depression. I didn't. I mean, yeah, I mean, I was a bit low because I physically couldn't do what I wanted to do, but I didn't have depression. I see people who have depression. That wasn't me. But I was given really easily given this medication and it— I had a similar experience actually about 20 years ago. I was having pains in my stomach and I was feeling tired and run down and I was probably feeling a bit low because I was tired and not feeling well. Again, not depressed. Went to see the doctors and they they gave me antidepressants. And I was like, it's not— so I tried taking them for a couple of days. I was probably— I was about 25, 26 at the time. Um, and then I just— and I was just out of it. It just like made me into a space cadet. And I was like, I don't like this. So I just stopped them and I started to do some research, learn about health and healing the body, changed my diet for 30 days and cured myself. All the pains went, all the stomach pain, the energy came back. Literally, I mean, that was me specifically, but with what I had. But they were going to give me antidepressants. And there's a time and a place for people that probably need antidepressants if, like you said, you are depressed. But I wasn't depressed and I was given them. But this is 20 years ago. I'm hoping they're a bit better with it all now. But I was so shocked and I just cured myself by cleaning up my diet and giving my body what it needed and my body healed itself. So I think sometimes that can get overlooked and Doctors aren't taught about nutrition and this kind of stuff. So obviously the first protocol I think they'll go to is pharmaceuticals, isn't it? Which, you know, like you said, has a time and a place, but sometimes we can heal ourselves. So I think, yeah, do some research. And yeah, anyway, I won't go too much into that. That's probably triggering for people. That's just like what are— like, we are so powerful as human beings and our power is taken away from us by saying, oh, but no, but you need something external. When in actual fact, everything that we need is within our reach, but we're just programmed and conditioned to believe that it's something that we have to— a product that we have to buy or something that we have to take. But in actual fact, if we just come inwards, if we just tune into like our body wisdom, like we can find the answers within us, usually not all the time. But so do you want to like someone listen, if you're saying like tune into your body wisdom, for someone listening, don't understand what that means, do you want to just talk them through that? So they can kind of maybe— yeah, so I think like we've, um, we've all got like, um, the intuition, that gut feeling. Yeah, so like, you know, like if you meet somebody, you'll be like, oh, like when I met you, I was like, oh, I love you. My gut feeling was just like cha-ching. Um, but then you can also— that can work the opposite way. Where you meet somebody and your skin like goes cold and prickly and you're like, oh, so that's your body, that's your, your body wisdom communicating with you to say, yes, this person's energy is amazing, bring that in. And you can have that without even having a conversation. You can— it's— that's like an energetic thing. Um, so yeah, body wisdom is just really like understanding like your body. So Obviously that was an example of something energetic, like when you meet somebody, but it can also be the same as like food. So obviously kale, talked about superfood, okay, but if you eat kale or quinoa, for example, like everybody loves a bit of kale and quinoa, and they're really like spoken about as being like really healthy foods, but if you eat like quinoa or kale or whatever, and it bloats you, you've got stomach cramps or whatever, that your body is saying, you know what, it might be healthy, but we don't like this. Okay. So and then that's, that's your decision where you go, oh, my body's telling me that this does not feel good. And then it's— you have the power to— you can continue eating it if you want. Or you go, actually, that might be a health food, but there are loads and loads of other health foods. So it's just really about getting to know yourself. And I think because we're so busy all the time and we've got so much persuasion through social media, we actually forget who we are, what we like, what works for us, because we're being told all the time. So it's just about like having that little bit of quiet time and just going, hmm, how do I feel about that? Just asking ourselves, how do I feel about that person, that situation, that food, and just sitting with that and then just seeing what happens in the body. And it can take like a little bit of practice sometimes, but the more like you dedicate— this is what you can do like in that morning ritual as well, just like practice just being alone with yourself and just asking yourself that, like these questions, um, and then just seeing what happens. Um, so yeah, that's body wisdom and like tuning in. I loved how you said everybody loves a bit of kale and quinoa. Do they, Naomi? Does everybody love a bit of kale? There is. Or do they love the health benefits? I think they like the idea of eating kale because it's been branded as being so healthy. I know, I know. Do you want some kale with that? They're like, no. I love a bit of kale, but yeah, it just makes me chuckle. Stick it in a smoothie, put some fruit with it, you won't taste it. Oh goodness. So you do eating psychology as well. Do you want to share a little bit on that? Yeah, it was, it's just like one of them, like the coaching certifications that I got, and I basically like trained in this, I think probably about 2016, actually, because my son, who was 1, and he's actually part of my journey because he was 1 when we moved to the south of France and he stopped eating everything, literally everything. He had like a white diet of like yogurt, bread, milk, and pasta. 4 white foods. And I know that's really common. I know there'll be lots of people listening going, yeah, I have that in my children. It's a very relatable problem. And I'm really pleased to say that he's nearly 13 now and we've got, we've got two new foods that have been added to that. Are they also white or has he veered off onto a different colour yet? He's got beige now. I'm joking. He is a little bit better, but he's still nowhere near where he should be. But I knew that it was a psychological thing with him. So that's why— that's what prompted me to study it, although I didn't really learn much about him. It just opened up so much just for me about how we eat, why we eat, the emotional attachment that we have to our food, and just really about understanding like our habits and patterns and beliefs all around, just all around like food and how we eat. And what's— and I think what's really fascinating is if you If you actually think about like the attachment that we have to food, as soon as we're born, we're given like boob or bottle. And then like every single— there's so many like measurable things throughout our lifetime. So when a child falls over, have a lollipop, you'll be okay. Sugar. Okay. Get a fever. Cowpox. Sugar. Do well at football or at school, let's go for ice cream to celebrate. Break up with a boyfriend. You're creating that association with sugar with all those emotional things, aren't you? Like that. Yeah. So you get to like our stage of life and I see so many people who are like, I'm completely addicted to sugar. And then when you actually like look at how sugar has— or food, it doesn't have to be sugar, but sugar is like the natural, the normal thing. It's in wine. It's obviously It's in like cakes, biscuits, whatever, chocolate sweets, all of the, all of the things that like we kind of go to. But same could be said for like junk food, crisps, whatever. But we've got this attachment and association with every time that we need to celebrate, it's with food or alcohol. Every time we need to commiserate, it's with food or alcohol. So when people are trying to like break free from the attachment to food, What they don't realize is that this is something that's been ingrained since the moment they were born. So it's not as easy to just go, well, I'm going to go cold turkey and just stop eating sugar. That's like taking a dummy away from a baby. You know, the body doesn't really understand. It's like, well, one second, like something that's been here all my life is just gone. So like the way to work with it in a healthy way is firstly to understand it, to just understand, to become aware, to become present, to become kind and compassionate to yourself. Because like, people often go, but I'm not going to eat any sugar for like a week. And then they give themselves really hard like goals, end up breaking it. And as soon as you break that goal and you have like one, one bite of the, one bite of the candy, that's it. It's okay, well, I might as well just eat the whole cake and I'll start again on Monday. So you end up like going into this vicious cycle and then beating— we beat ourselves up because we've got no willpower, can't do it. So many different like triggers and thought processes that pop into our mind which are just self-sabotage and just keep us stuck in this cycle. So it's really about just understanding about like the power of food and then empowering ourselves with knowledge, understanding, awareness, breaking the attachment, and then introducing new healthier habits mindset beliefs. And the biggest thing of all, just kindness and compassion. You have a bad day, let yourself have a bad day. Like I always say, like, um, it's like we have a choice. Like if we're trying to eat healthier and we slip up, yes, it's gonna happen. That's life, you know. Life is going to throw us like a curveball, which is going to be a trigger and going to send us back to our old ways where, like, a glass of wine was the comforter or a bar of chocolate was the console or whatever it is. And until we have really, like, worked with that, we still might be pulled back. But it's in those moments when we're pulled back, that's when— but that's when we have, like, the choice to make the change. So we can either, in that situation, continuing the cycle, go completely binge, overeat, and then the same thing happens again. Or we can choose to see things differently. You can go, okay, why did this happen? And at that moment, if you reflect back, you go, oh well, had an argument with my partner, my boss was horrible, kids are driving me mad, didn't sleep last night, whatever the reason is, you can kind of like see your why. Why did that happen? What What prompted me to push into that, into that space? And from that place, you can come in, you go, oh, actually, that I've had quite a bad day and I can see why I did that. And you can come in with kindness and compassion to yourself, which stops you going down that vortex where one piece of cake ends up being like 10 cakes or whatever it is, or one glass of wine ends up being a bottle, you know, it's just about— or two or three. It's about recognizing and just coming to things with like kindness and compassion. It's our biggest friend. I like that because it's basically bringing in the understanding, and so understanding into it. So you understanding why you do stuff takes out that, yeah, that kind of blaming yourself and feel guilty. Yeah. That's something that's really powerful as well, and seeing where your patterns are. And then if you know that if you have a stressful day, or, you know, you've taken a lot on, or you've not slept well, that you're probably going to be triggered to eat those foods that are not good for you. So maybe have something as an alternative those days. Make a conscious choice to eat and take food in that will nourish you quickly, so that you're not turning to that sugary stuff that's probably detrimental. I love that, love that. Um, you are a healer and, um, you are all about— I love your approach, it's very holistic, it's about healing your whole life. Um, so, and I think that's something that we all need to do because obviously we all go through challenges and we go through different stages in our life and we all need to heal on different levels. Um, what advice or tips could you give to the listeners that they can apply to their lives? And in ways that they can start healing their life? Um, yeah, that's a really good question because I think like in terms of like healing, it is like multi-layered. So it's— I think like the first step is just understanding, understanding you, understanding, well, what needs healing? Is it something physical? So something physical could be like a weight issue or like skin, for example. Um, is it emotional? Is it a trauma? Um, is it something mental? You know, so getting really specific on, okay, in what areas of my life do I feel out of balance? Where do I not feel good? And there'll be, there'll be areas that you feel amazing. And I always do this with my clients, like get them just to rate like 1 to 10, how do you feel emotionally? How do you feel physically? How do you feel mentally? How do you feel spiritually out of 10? And then instantly, just from that, you can see where, where the gaps are, and then that's where the focus needs to come, to come, to come to. Um, it's also about like just, just realizing that there are so many like healing tools out there. I mean, it's really easy to like look at something like meditation and go, right, well, everybody's talking about meditation, and if I meditate like for a week then I'm going to heal all my trauma and my life's going to be amazing. Okay, I think there's— it's about having realistic expectations. Yeah, it would be. That'd be amazing, wouldn't it? Sit on the mat and say, oh no, we'll be all forgiven and gone from my life. Yeah, if only it was that simple. I know, imagine it'd be great, wouldn't it? Absolutely amazing. Um, So yeah, it's about having like realistic expectations. Um, also about like seeing like healing as a journey as well. Um, and that we're all healing. Even though I'm a healer, I'm still constantly healing, okay? I'm— and I'm very open and honest about like all of the things that I kind of like go through, and I'm still going through. And everything, every part of my journey helps other people. And sometimes I'm only like one step in front of the people who I'm helping, but that's what it needs to be. And one of my friends actually said to me, she was like, how can you heal people if you're not fully healed? And we had this conversation. I said, well, I'm never going to be fully healed because it is a journey. There's— and it's the healing journey is like doing it piece by piece, like doing a jigsaw puzzle. Well, today I'm going to put in this piece. And also it's about being realistic with it in the sense that I know people who go on all of these retreats and do all of these plant medicines and constantly like, oh, I'm healing, I'm healing, I'm healing. It's about having a balance. Heal, but also live life. Okay. So I will do my healing work when I feel, when things kind of trigger for me. I do not want to be sitting in a healing state because Some— it can be really uncomfortable because it can take you into that dip and the depths when everything is like dark sludge and you're like, oh my God, everything's so horrible. The light does come in and you feel amazing, you get that euphoric epiphany afterwards. But I don't want that all of the time. Okay, I think there's a time and a place for that. And when stuff kind of like pops up like a little whack-a-mole that goes, da-da! Then I'm like, okay, then let's sit with this, work through it. So it's about having that realistic balance to healing as well and not just going, well, I'm healing, I'm healing, I'm healing. No, heal but live, heal but live, you know. Um, it's like heal and then enjoy the new, like, version of you and the letting go and feeling healthier, happier. Enjoy that for a bit. And so, yeah, I like that because, well, onions aren't with us, like layers. We'll let go when we're ready to let go at certain things at certain points in our life. And obviously we're triggered by life, people, and circumstances, so that's going to bring something about. It might uncover a trauma, and my trauma could be something small, it could be something big from years ago, or event that comes up in the future can sort of traumatize us. So there's always going to be healing that occurs throughout our whole life. So I love that we're having this conversation because I think sometimes people are a bit scared of going for healing because they think they need to be broken. And if they're having healing, they must be broken in some way. There's something wrong with them. It's just not the case at all. Everyone can benefit. Everyone needs healing throughout their whole lives in different— excuse me— everybody needs healing throughout their whole lives in different areas, like you said, like mental, physical, spiritual. And I think that the more we kind of open up to that and the more we do it, the more it's becomes okay. So I love that we're having this conversation because I think when we talk about stuff like this, it makes people realize it's okay to do it, step forward and kind of go, actually, yeah, I'm not really happy with the way my body is, or the way I'm showing up in relationships, or the relationships I'm attracting in, or, um, you know, my relationship with food, or maybe I'm not showing up in my business how I want to, or in my life in some way. And that's all about the healing journey. So I love that, you know, that this is a conversation about having something. Yeah, no, it's beautiful. I love what you said, um, um, I love what you said about people like thinking that healing has to be if you're broken. Yeah, because I don't think anyone's broken, you know. I think that's— I think it's a term that's kind of like thrown around. Oh yeah, but I'm really broken at the moment. No, you're not broken. It's a— that's a really bold statement. Yeah, we like— we go through— I'm going through a tough time at the moment, or things don't feel right at the moment. And again, that's that body wisdom. Like, it's like a compass. It's like going, you're not going in the right direction here. You're out of alignment with your— with your true north, your purpose, your passion. So we need to do something to veer you back on track. Um, but yeah, nobody's broken. I sometimes like to see it more as like a little bit fragmented, a bit scattered. But yeah, broken— I'd never— I always correct my clients when they come and they say, 'I'm broken.' No, you're not. That's the first thing. No, because when you have— when you affirm what we— what we say, we become. So if you're saying, 'I am broken,' if that's your narrative, then it's a really negative vibration that you're just kind of throwing out. Yeah, you're putting real pressure on yourself with that as well. I am broken. Like, yeah, I think it's not— it's like, yeah, I'm just— I think when you're in the sort of low point, you're going through a stage of healing. You said you're in alignment, or you're out of alignment. Um, that's just— it's just so true. So just get back into your alignment and most of that drops away, or you're ready to release something, and that's— and it's your body's telling you you're ready to release it. So, and you, and you're not able to do this on your own. So that's the point when I think you need to seek guidance from somebody like such as yourself or someone that's in a healing modality to help facilitate you moving that out of your body and out of your life and your mind or wherever it is. So I just think when you're going through those low points, it's okay to reach out and ask for help. Because I think sometimes people get scared to ask for help as well because they think that they've failed in some way. Yeah. Um, and that they need to be strong or something. And I think If you're going through something, please, please, please reach out and ask someone for help. Do some research, and, you know, um, so, you know, maybe find someone on YouTube, social media, some— or read a book or something, some, some kind of expert that you think can help facilitate you to move through this transition, like someone like Naomi or even myself or anyone who's in that healing modality, because your body is telling you that it's time to release it. So please, please, please do not suffer, um, on your own and think that you're on your own, because you're not on your own. Reach out. There's, you know, people, so many beautiful souls out there in the world that their whole life is about healing and helping others. So please reach out to someone because people will want to help and support you through that. So I'll just drop that. Beautiful. Please. So it's so true. It's like, don't suffer in silence. Like, just speak out and just tell people because there are so— there's so many resources. And that's like another thing with like the healing. There are so many resources out there and we can try one thing and go, oh, well, that doesn't work. Everything's hopeless, blah, blah, blah, and put up like the barriers. But it's like, no, just because that one thing doesn't work for you, there are like another 100 or more tools out there. And there is definitely something for everybody. So, um, that's what I do is I'm, I'm finding— I'm helping people find their blueprint of what works for them and what tools work for them. Because I don't want to see a client keep coming back like time and time again, like every week. I want to equip them with a toolbox so when stuff gets tough, they go, oh right, I know how I can move myself through this. Often like Clients come back for a bit of a reset, energy clear, whatever. But through the tough, the tough times, my job is to empower people to take control of their life, their health, tune in with their body and have an efficient toolbox which works for them. And it is all about experimenting. I've done so many different types of meditation and diets. I've literally tried everything. And I do that like because I'm always looking to explore and I'll try it and I'm like, does this work? You know, it doesn't work for me, but now I know about that. So I can tell my clients about this new tool or tip or resource. So yeah, it's also like comparison as well. And it's really easy. Like you go to a sound bath and somebody sits and goes, oh, I had this most amazing experience, this life-changing experience. And the person next to me goes, well, I fell asleep. So you can— we can compare ourselves, like our healing journey. But why are you healing quicker than me? So it's really easy to compare our journey with the journey of others. 100%. I think that's, that's— yeah, that's really powerful as well. Yeah, because we do that, don't we? And we're both kind of to look around and think that— I think women do this particularly more than men as well. Like, we cut that— kind of put that pressure on ourselves to be to be healed and to be strong and be there for everyone in our lives. And that, you know, if we're not healed and not the strong one, that somehow we failed at life. It's just not true, is it? And looking at other people, I think, what does it say? Comparison is the fastest way to unhappiness or something like that. And other people going through their own journeys, and just because they look like they're healing quicker doesn't mean that they are. Just because somebody looks like they've got all the shizzle together doesn't mean that they have. Do you know what I mean? We might be making that up and projecting that onto them. Um, we've got no idea what's going on with other people. So I think, like, just have that compassion for ourselves. And, um, really, the only, the only person that you can know 100% about is yourself, right? And so you can only know about your own healing journey and where you're at. And where you're at right now is exactly where you're meant to be. So it doesn't matter where anyone else is at, and you don't know where they're at. You can just make an assumption, which is generally not always right. As much as our subconscious mind might want to convince us that we're right about everything, we're generally not. You know, how many times have you thought something about someone and later on found out that it was not the case at all? You know, so I think when we're on our healing journeys, I think you're absolutely right, it's just to sort of just focus in, focus on ourselves and say, where am I right now? What do I need more of to be happier or healthier or whatever it is that we want to move towards? I'll be completely okay with where we're at, because where we're at is where we're at, given what we've just done in our life up to this moment. And I think when you take that on, that's empowering. And I love that when you're working with people, you're teaching them to be empowered and not to be reliant on you and on other things and external things. So as much as they're coming to you for that healing and facilitation, um, you're empowering them so that then go forth and be strong and powerful. And I just absolutely love that. And that for me is what healing should be all about. So I think that's really lovely. Yeah, absolutely. And the thing is though, like, if I see it's like a ripple effect as well. So if I'm, if I'm helping somebody in their healing journey and I'm giving them the tools, and I see this so often with when like my clients will then go and do meditations or do breathwork with like their children or their husbands or partners. And so it has like this ripple effect where you— I help one person, that one person makes an impact, then they go and help somebody else. I mean, it's spreading that, that vibration and that collective kind of well-being, which is what we need more of, more faith rather than fear. And what I loved about what you said as well, like it's— everybody's doing their best with what they have at that time. Yeah. Now, and we're all like, as you said beautifully, like, we're all exactly where we need to be. And it's just like recognizing that we're doing our best with where I am today. I'm doing the best with all of the resources mentally, physically, emotionally, and spiritually that I have available to me in this moment. And being okay with that rather than looking externally at what everybody else is doing, or what you're being told that you should be doing, um, via social media or whatnot. Yeah, there is no should, is there? We need to get all the shoulds out of the way. We end up shoulding all over ourselves. I know, it's a mean word, isn't it? Definitely, let's cross that one out the dictionary. No shoulda, woulda, couldas, thank you. All of them gone. You've said that before. No shoulda, woulda, couldas. Um, and I like— and I love like what you just said about sharing as well, but like your partners or your, your kids as well, and getting them to do the breathwork and meditations. The cacao ceremony, like the, the morning ritual with a cacao, would be a really good thing to do with your kids and a partner as well, wouldn't it? Oh, absolutely. In the morning together. Yeah, really lovely. Yeah, who wouldn't love a hot, hot magic chocolate in the morning? Yeah, but just like you said, made with love. Yeah, made with love. Yeah, can kids? Yeah, sorry, I'm like talking about— yeah, kids can have cacao, just a lower dose, and you make it with like oat milk, and I've got a video, so I can send you that video that you can share as well. If somebody wants to watch this video, where can they see it? Oh, it's on my YouTube. It's on my YouTube, which is Naomi Buff. Yeah, it is a very no-frills video. Please do not get excited. It's literally like me in my kitchen keeping it real, like with the camera over my stove. Naomi in the buff. I'm keeping it real. I'm flaked naked. Flaked bare. Could you imagine? No, you're not gonna be in the buff. That's the X-rated version. It might be a paid version there, Janine. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. Um, I digress. Um, right, we've only got a couple of minutes left, so let's close it up with, um, is— who is your go-to guru at the minute, um, that, you know, that you are learning from at the? Because I always love to learn about new people that are out there sharing new things. Have you got a go-to guru that you're lapping up at the moment? Always love Gabrielle Bernstein. I think she has been a solid part for years. Who else? Jay Shetty, Stephen Bartlett. Oh, there's so many. Brené Brown, she's one of my favorites as well. So yeah, sorry, you asked for one and I've given you four. I know, but more is, more is great. I think the more people we can learn from, the better, right? Because it's all about growing as collective and sharing, and sharing is caring. So yeah, who are you, who are you listening to at the moment? Yeah, I do like all of those, and I also really like, um, Esther Hicks. I think she's— you find her sometimes, she calls herself Abraham Hicks. Yeah, she channels um, talks all about the law of attraction, but she channels the, uh, the spiritual collective and she gives it a name called Abraham. Yeah. Um, so I think to make it more understandable for people, and I absolutely love her stuff. Um, but anyone and everyone, right? All the ones you mentioned. I also quite liked Marianne Williamson, um, and her book A Return to Love. Yeah. Um, yeah, I think she sort of stayed away from that in recent years, but, um, yeah, some of hers, all the stuff, all, uh Wayne Dyer, people like that, absolutely love. Yeah, just anyone, anyone that really, I think, brings somebody back to a heart space and just wants to help people grow and evolve and be happy, I love, because I guess that's what I want to do, it's my mission. So I think I naturally gravitate to people that do that because I just want everyone to be filled with love and be happy. I'm a little love bunny. Really, you are. Have you seen Sadhguru? Have you seen him? No, I'll have to send you him. He's brilliant. He's like, um, he's quite funny, isn't he? He's hilarious but so wise. Yeah, I like him. Yeah, yeah, I like anything who brings humor. Yeah, I think humor is so important as well because I think sometimes we take We can take things so seriously, you know, when we're going through healing, but humor is one of the highest vibrations. When we laugh, it's so healing in itself and it's such a high vibration that I think it's really important to bring humor into our lives and what we do. My God, I like to laugh every day. I mean, you probably know how many times I've laughed during this interview. Just like, it's just, I love a laugh, I love a laugh. Me too. I think as well, do you know what I mean? Like, there's a lot, we've got so much stress and pressure to deal with in our lives. I think just try and bring in as much fun and love as possible and laughter. Yeah, I think the sooner you can laugh about a situation, the sooner you can move on from it emotionally and start that healing process. Yeah, and not take things to heart and not let it impact you as negatively as well. So yeah, yeah, yeah, the power of laughing. Power of laughter. Yeah, you know, I did a laughing circle, um, about 2 weeks ago. I was at an event up in Sheffield and one of the girls, um, just like a yogic laughter, like a yogic laughing circle. It's absolutely brilliant. I don't know if you've tried one of those, or anyone listening, but I recommend that too. You literally— there's just a group of women, we're all sitting in a circle, and she takes you through a process, and, um, it's called yoga, but it's actually just laughing, and then certain things you do. And we were literally just laughing non-stop for about 30 minutes, and it was the most incredible experience, and it was absolutely brilliant. So, you know, the power of laughter is a real thing, people. It's a real thing. No, it is. I was like, healing session this morning, and I've got one of my musical instruments is called a wah-wah stick, and I was doing this at the end of the session and my client started cracking up, like literally like laughing her head off. And she's like, I'm so sorry. And I was like, no, like, it's— that's an emotion, and energy is like emotion in move. So yeah, just like let it flow. It was brilliant. She was belly laughing, laying on this mat. Yeah. I want to know what a wah-wah stick is. That sounds awesome. Everyone needs a wah-wah stick. What is a wah-wah stick? It was an absolute pleasure chatting to you. It's, um, all we got time for today. I almost like to keep chatting forever, but, um, thank you so much. Um, where can people find you if they want to look you up? What's your website and social medias? Oh, thank you so much. I've loved today so much. I've loved laughing with you and just sharing and just talking about this subject, which is just so beautiful. And so, yeah, you can find me— my website is www.nourishedbynaomi.com, and then all my socials are Nourished by Naomi apart from, um, YouTube, which is Naomi Buff. Naomi in the buff. Okay, Naomi Buff. I'm gonna do that one just for you now. So Nourished by Naomi. Uh, thanks everybody for listening. This was the Eat Love Do Show. I'm Janine Newbury, I've been your host, and we are on every week, 9 AM and 9 PM challenging amazing people every week, sharing their awesomeness and gold with you. Um, I hope you tune in each and every week and enjoy the show. Until next time, eat, love, do, be happy, be healthy.