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In this episode of Future Classic Women Awards, host Stefania Passamonte welcomes Georgie Mattram and Laura Kutz from the innovative pop opera quartet Ida Girls. The group was born from friendships formed during a London production of Gilbert and Sullivan’s Princess Ida, and has evolved into a unique musical project that bridges the gap between classical opera and contemporary pop music. Through their creative arrangements and mashups, Ida Girls are on a mission to make opera accessible to younger audiences while maintaining the integrity of classical music.

Ida Girls redefine what pop opera means today by creating their own signature sound through four-part harmonies that blend classical themes with current pop songs. They discuss how their unconventional approach has resonated with audiences who thought they didn’t like opera, transforming perceptions of classical music. Drawing inspiration from artists ranging from Il Devo and Bruce Springsteen to opera legends like Renée Fleming, the quartet showcases their artistry with a stunning rendition of U2’s ‘With or Without You,’ performed in their distinctive classical crossover style. Their upcoming EP is available exclusively on Spotify.

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  • Ida Girls is a pop opera quartet that formed from friendships made during a London production of Princess Ida
  • They define their sound as classical crossover, blending opera and pop music to appeal to both traditional classical and contemporary audiences
  • The group creates their own vocal arrangements and performs mashups combining classical composers like Puccini with modern artists like Wiz Khalifa
  • A key goal is to make classical music and opera more accessible and relevant to younger generations
  • Audience feedback reveals the group successfully converts pop music listeners to opera enthusiasts and vice versa
  • The members draw inspiration from diverse artists including Il Devo, Bruce Springsteen, U2, and renowned opera singers like Renée Fleming
  • Their upcoming EP is available exclusively on Spotify under the name Ida Girls London

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Full TranscriptHello and welcome to future Classic Woman Awards with me, Stefania Passamonte on women's radio station, the program wher...
Hello and welcome to future Classic Woman Awards with me, Stefania Passamonte on women's radio station, the program where we search for the most amazing new female artist on the classic Panorama. Today on future classical Women Awards, we will be talking to Georgie Mattram and Laura Kutz from the opera group Ida Girls this year on the red carpet of the latest classic Brits Awards. Welcome Georgie and Laura. Thank you. Thank you for having us. So, Georgie and Laura, what is the Ida Girls? So it's actually Ida Girls. So, yeah, I mean, it's quite complicated, isn't it? Because most people think it's Ida because they see Ida and think it stands for something, but no, it is just Ida. We all met on the London production of Princess Ida, which is a Gilbert and Sullivan operetta, and basically just formed the group from that. We all became very good friends and Laura kind of rang us up after the show was finished and said, do you want to sing together? So that's how the kind of birth of idea, if you like, started. And we just kept meeting up every week and singing together and then the group kind of formed from that, didn't it? Just because we both dad of cups of tea and discussions about boys, jazz about life and love and things like that, and we just loved hanging out so much. And then we kind of realized that we had such a lot of chemistry as a group just because we were all kind of best friends pretty much immediately and that. Well, we hope that that kind of transferred to the stage as well. Cause, I mean. Yeah, so we seem to have a lot of chemistry, don't we, on stage and. Yeah, just very lucky and kind of. Yeah, yeah, just a very lucky series of events that happened. Yeah, fantastic. So I have a very big question. What does it mean pop opera today for you? Well, the basic term would be a combination of both pop and opera music, but I guess ours is. It's kind of become more of an Ida sound because we arrange our own songs, we do our all our own vocal arrangements. So we're kind of trying to redefine the definition of pop and opera and we. Pop opera. Yeah, I mean, it's very much classical crossover, which is what we are. We're kind of a classical crossover group, but we call ourselves a pop opera quartet, I guess, because we try and merge opera and pop together, or rather the kind of audience that would like classical music and the audience that would like pop music. We're trying to get transferable. Yeah, definitely trying to make it transfer. Transferable. So we do have a very Unique sound. And the way in which Laura and Wendy, who's also in the group, arrange the songs, arrange the pop songs is a very classical way. And then of course, we do opera, opera arias as well, but we kind of just try and make them more fun. And then sometimes we mash up the two genres, so we do have mashups of things like Puccini and Wiz Khalifa and always in full part harmony. Always in four part harmony. Yeah. So it's basically like. Because there's lots of classical crossover artists and I guess it's just naturally what we're passionate about, the kind of pop opera sound, so. And there doesn't seem to be that out there at the moment. So that's kind of what we. What we do and just kind of what we've ended up doing naturally. So I guess we're trying to just move on the classical crossover genre and just. Just. Yeah, just. Just kind of like make it quite current for our audiences. Yeah. So do you think opera today should be. Could be more popular, like the, the opera to court? What. I mean, for example, when you go to Royal Opera House, there is a code of conduct, Right. When you go to see the opera, when you go to the concerts, for example, of Katherine Jenkins or this type of oppo Celli, it's a totally different type of audience. So, yeah, I think. I think that the kind of the. In the opera world, what. What we're trying to do is we're trying to kind of get a younger generation interested in classical music and interested in opera and to make it more current. And that's. I think that's kind of one of the reasons why we do mash up. So we'll be singing a pop song, like a very current pop song, and then we'll kind of, you know, mash mash up like a very classical theme over the top of it. And, and the audiences, especially younger audiences, go, oh my gosh, that's amazing. And we go, yes, that's classical music you will love. Classical music is epic. So we do try and we do kind of try and aim to a younger generation as well as. As well as kind of an older generation too. We kind of are trying to aim for both. Yeah, well, yeah, both. All of you, actually, the four of you, you're all pretty young, so. Yeah, it makes sense, I mean, to say to the people of your age, that is not just a classical opera. It's not just for. Oh, no, no, absolutely not. Done. When we've done. When we've done shows before and we do a lot internationally. And I mean, the comment that we always get is. Is either, oh, my goodness, I didn't know. I didn't think I liked opera, but I like opera now, you know, and. Or we get, oh, I didn't think I liked pop, or I didn't think I liked that song, but, oh, now I. You know, it's just. It's just doing. It's doing music in a different way to kind of appeal to more people, I think. Yeah. So do you have any. Any artist that inspired you to. To go down? If you want, Laura's the one that you have all the. She has the coolest people that she follows. Like, she's like a Guns N Roses girl. Like, she's our. Yeah, she's. She's our. Who are your artists that inspire you? Oh, goodness. But, well, there's. There's the Il Devo artists that inspire the pop opera realm of the music that we do. But then, I mean, there's also the Bruce springsteens and the U2 and the older generation of. Of pop music that inspires the group as well. So, like, yeah, music that might be interested by our mums and dads, maybe. Yeah, yeah. And definitely in terms of opera singers as well. Like, we're. I mean, like Renee Fleming and Sumi Jo and just all. Yeah, there's just some. Some voices out there that are just so incredible and they kind of. Those kind of voices definitely inspire us to keep doing classical music and keep putting it out there, just because they're so. They're so epic. Yeah. All right, so talking about the COVID from, you know, the modern music, shall we just try to listen to something from your upcoming album ap? From your upcoming ap? Yes, please do. So our EP will be available on Spotify, so that's the only place that we are releasing it. So if you are. If you like what you hear, then please go on to Spotify and we'll be Ida Girls, London. And listen is, you know, to your heart's content, if you like it. So. So shall we listen to with or without you? Yes. From the YouTube. See the stone set in your eyes. See the thorn twisting your side. I wait for. On a bed of nails she makes me wait. And I wait without you. With or without you. With or without you. Through the storm we reach the shore. You gave it all, but I want more. And I'm waiting for you. With or without you. With or without you. I. I can't live. With or without you. And you give yourself away. And you give yourself away. And you give and you give and you give yourself away with or without you with or without you why I can't live with or without you. I can't live with or without you with or without you. Welcome to women's radio station, the voice of women worldwide. So I do glitter for a living. Coming up next on women's radio station wrs. Women's radio station. 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Welcome back to future Classic Woman Awards on Women's Radio Station, the program where we search for the most amazing new female artist on the classical panorama. Today we're talking to Georgie and Laura from the pop opera group Ida Girls. So Georgie and Laura, what would you say was the most challenging moment in your career? Upcoming career, if you had any. That's a hard one. Have you found anything challenging, Laura? Oh, I think, I think as an overall the only challenging kind of bit is about our career is how much we travel and oh goodness, the image to get over enough Internet. That's probably a big challenge. That's not a challenge. Oh my God. But I think probably getting over like jet lag potentially is being the biggest challenge because do you reckon it's nothing really with the group, obviously we do everything ourselves, we do everything in house. So we write our own arrangements and we choose our own songs and we do our own kind of picking of the dresses and choreography and all those things. But yeah, I would say all of that kind of feels quite easy and quite natural. Yeah, all quite fun. But yeah, I would say it's just the travel. Like this year we're off to New York and then Australia and we just got back from Copenhagen yesterday, so you can imagine the jet lag. It's like just trying to get into the right time zones and stuff. So. Yeah, we once had to perform after a flight to Barbados, didn't we? Oh yeah, that was up in the morning at like 2 or something in the morning and then fly to Barbados and then. Which is, by the way, you're on tonight. Oh, okay, sure. Yeah, So I reckon that's, that's probably the most challenging thing. All right. So you know, in terms of traveling, so would you say that would have like makes you more friends and how is it with your personal life, for example, how do you combine your personal life with this traveling, for example? Yeah, I mean you would imagine, wouldn't you, as four girls traveling all the time. You would imagine there'd be fights, but. But weirdly it's kind of make us stronger. Yeah. And we find it quite fun, don't we? We're always like, we're always the ones laughing in like the cues to get on the plate stuff. We just, we just find everything hilarious and it's always like really light hearted and we just have like, you know, live chats and have loads of fun. So, so. And that's been the same for about two years now. So. Yeah, you would have thought as four girls spending all that time together, we would argue but we just don't at all. We just all get on so well. Yeah, I think we're really lucky actually, come to think of it. Yeah, that is wonderful. Absolutely. Yeah. Now I see you on stage as well. I mean the chemistry that there is between you four, it's, it's not, it's not very common. So I think that might be the key of your success. Oh yeah, maybe, maybe. We do love each other. We do, we do every time we sing a lot. That's what we find when. So when someone else is doing a solo, we're all like watching with like love. And they're like, oh God. It's my turn to say, oh, just listening in, just thinking, enjoying what they're singing, you know? Yeah. So you said that you mentioned that you met in the production of Gilbert and Sullivan, Princess Eda. So how would you say is the relationship between opera to Coor and the musical theatre, for example? Well, the Gilbert and Sullivan is operetta, so it's. It's not slap bang in the middle, but it's kind of in the middle, isn't it? Because it's not quite opera, but it's definitely not musical theatre. It' opera. It's like light opera, if you like. I mean the difference with opera, musical theatre, I mean the musical difference is just. Is quite different. The vocal qualities that you would use in both is massive. Yeah. And I think musical theatre obviously is ever so slightly with the things that are coming out at the moment are more current and opera is just an older form of music. Some operas anyway, not obviously the newest stuff. But yeah, so I think just that it's just the difference in the history of it. Like, you know, opera is kind of a bit older, I guess than musical theatre. So you can hear that in the music. Well, I think there was already at the time some sort of musical theater that, you know, was having the easier area for the normal audience and it just didn't pass the test of time. Yeah. Yes. Because I guess opera was like kind of the popular form of music at the time. And yeah, I would say Madad was the first. But even Rossini with the Opera Comique, they were really putting in, you know, the fan bits and Carmen was. Was kind of deemed as quite musical theater of its day, wasn't it? So if you had to sing opera, what would be your favorite character to sing? What would be yours? Mine would be Coco San from Madama Butterfly. I think it'd be Violetta oh. From Tropical. You'd totally. Yeah, you totally. Oh, choices, choices, choices, choices. What would yours be? I reckon I'd be Oscar from Virginia. Oscar the boy. Yeah. I think like a fun character because I'm quite short so I think I can get away with it. Definitely my hair up and the light. Yeah, like running notes. Do you think the heroines or the heroes from the operas are still modern? I mean, the. The subject that is talked about. For example, Madama Butterfly, she's killing herself for love. Oh, yeah, but that's Miss Saigon, isn't it? So the stories are timeless. Cause that's what Miss Saigon's based on. 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Oh, that was horrific. Basically, we had been filming. Well, yeah, we were doing film clips all day. And Georgie, being Georgie, on the way from Somerset to Wales to the next gig, had lost her shoes somewhere along the way. Oh, wow. So. And I only had sketches. She only had sketches. But luckily your dresses were quite long. I basically had to wear trainers and a massive ball gown. So my ball gown was, like, trailing. And I was trying to stand on my tiptoes because the girls are so much taller than me. So much taller. Are you like five, seven, Laura? Five eight. Are you five' eight? Okay, so I'm like five' two, so you can imagine the difference. And then five' eight in heels. And I have people coming up to me after the show and they ask me whether I had, like a growth problem. And I was like, no, it's just they look much taller on skin. Cause they were in heels and I wasn't in. Oh, God. And I was trying to hide the trainers the whole show. It was so embarrassing. Yeah, I've done quite similar things. I once bought an odd pair of shoes as well. They were like a right and a left pair. They were just different colors, but that's okay. Seamus. Girl 1 yes, that was pretty embarrassing. That's very, very funny. All right, and you, Georgine? Laura. Laura. No, never. Never been embarrassed in my whole life. No, not off the Top of my head. Anyway. Can you think of anything? No, not really. I'm just perfect with this. Joking. I'm joking. There's definitely moments. Oh, yeah, definitely. I'll have a thing now. You still love me? Well, you know what? We've been talking before in the previous episodes about the zodiacal sign. So can I just throw a guess? For example, are you Aquarius or something similar? Oh, no, I'm Taurus. Oh, but that's quite close, isn't it? Aquarius, the water. Yeah, very close. What's mine? What's mine, I would say. But then, you know, if I don't guess, that doesn't work. I have no idea. Now, what are you and Taurus as well? Taurus, yeah. We're both not very tourists. We're both quite airy. Fairy, would you say? The ascendant? Maybe. I don't know if you know it. You know, we've been talking about Clara Schumann. That is the music soundtrack of the show. And she was married to Robert, who is Libra. And she fell in love for Brahms, who was. For Robert, who's Gemini. And she fell in love with Brahms, who's Gemini as well. And so she had this thing for Geminis. And so. Oh, my gosh. Right. And last time. So I'm Libra, and we had Sarah and Laura. Ayub. And Laura is Libra, like me. And she goes with Gemini, who's her sister. So why not? So here we got two tarot. Okay. Do you know the other two girls, then? Oh, Wendy's. Wendy's. The one before Taurus. Is that Aquarius? Yes. Or Aries. Is that Aquarius? I don't know. I think it's Aries. I think Wendy's. Aries. Yeah. I'm not sure what's Aries and Sarah is. No idea. Maybe. Maybe. No. No idea. Sorry. Let's go back next time. We will find out for you. All right? All right. Very good. So do you have any. Strange hobby, Strange hobbies. Not strange. I love running. Yeah, I'm a keen runner. But that's not that strange, is it? So, yeah, I run in my spare time quite a lot. I love dog spotting. Oh, I don't think that's strange either. Because this is wonderful. Especially in London when there's, like, dogs everywhere. I like to take photos and send them onto my boyfriend Brenda's dog mad. She's dog mad. If she sees a dog, she's like. And she has to go and, like, pat it and stuff. Yeah. Is that a hobby, though? I don't know. But do you, do you have otherwise, you know, a ritual before going on stage? Yeah, we do, but it's kind of weird. So we just had this thing. I'm going to try and explain it, but honestly, it's never going to sound good. But we. So instead of like high fiving or put your hands together, we kind of do it. We kind of just all put our bums together. Yeah. Reverse way. So we like reverse high five. I can't explain it any more than that, but that's, that's what we seem to do before every show and it brings us luck and we can't not do it. And it just makes us, like, go out and have a good time and have fun because we find it funny. And then we start laughing and then we're on stage and we're. Yes, wonderful. So what shall we listen to, you know, in this mood, in this joyful mood? Ah, maybe Mystery of the Gift. Good one, good one. All right. Why don't we listen then to Mystery of the Gift by Brian Byron and Josh Groben? A single note passes out of the ashes A flickering ember begins it's the courage to turn when the pages have burned and your story now seems at an end Seasons stay and seasons go Sending your memories a dream gift it's the beautiful longing embrace the unknown that's the mystery of your gift and the echo of your melody Will always live in these words and the lessons that you give to me before you can fly you must fall it's the beautiful longing embrace the unknown that's the mystery of your king. There's a voice in the shadow calling for more There's a rhythm that beats from within Lending your voice to the warmth of your song There's a strength in a choir of one your is the voice that sees the place where the weight of your must be known It's a beautiful longing embrace the unknown that's the mystery of your. Courage you need comes from you it's like a beautiful longing embrace the arms unknown that's the mystery of your gift it's the beautiful longing embrace the unknown that's the mystery. Of your. All your care. Welcome to women's radio station, the voice of women worldwide. So I do glitter for a living. Coming up next on women's radio station wrs. Women's radio station. Hey, this is Jessie and I'm a life architect. So what has made you say effort in red or effort? Enjoy this week. I love listening to women's radio whilst driving in my car, my sport and me listen online on your smartphone and on your computer. If you wanted to find out a little bit more do go to our website womensradiostation.com Mirae B Ltd. We are a virtual PA consultancy. We provide remote administrative services. Our offering is diverse. We manage your calendar, we update your client database, we take care of your property in France and in London. We also offer bookkeeping and translation services. 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And I think you've just got to have faith, have faith in your talent and Keep going and ask questions as well. Like don't be scared to ask people for advice and. Yeah, that's what I would say. And don't be afraid to be your own boss as well. I think definitely as a younger artist, I was very much reliant on other people getting me work and other people creating opportunities for me. And then all of a sudden it was like, oh, hang on. Well, I mean I can just do that myself. And then I met Georgie and Georgie's a go getter. So then Georgie did it all for me. But also. But surround yourself with people who are after the same goals and who want to build you up, like, you know, women supporting women and just. Yeah, surround yourself by positive people and keep going. Yeah, as long as you're happy, just keep going. Absolutely. Do you have any great teacher you that, you know, set or model that made you to think about. Oh, a great teacher that kind of inspired us to go on to this kind of. I mean, God, I've had some incredible teachers in my time. I think every teacher I've had has been inspiring. Really? Definitely. When I was younger, when I was about 16, I had a teacher called Jane Highfield who really kind of. Because I was, I was in Jersey at the time and she suggested I go to Cheetham School of Music and kind of opened my eyes to that. So that's what I ended up doing and I left the island and did that and studied soprano singing and piano and I think that was a big turning point for me because I'm not sure if I'd stayed in Jersey. How. Yeah, because I don't think the opportunity to be a freelance singer out there are the same as they are over in the uk. So yeah, that made a massive difference in my life for sure. For you I would have to be my very first singing teacher, Sandra Milliken back in Brisbane. She was just so encouraging and I mean I would skip home after every lesson every Monday and it was like I'd just be walking on air afterwards. It was just the way that she made me feel so confident about myself and my ability and you know, you could have been the best technique teacher or the best repetitor in the whole world. But if you, if you don't have that connection with your student and you don't encourage them like she did with me. I don't. Just don't think I would have been here right now. Yeah, wonderful. And actually I didn't ask you, do you. How is it, you know, you travel a lot around the world? Do you have ever had a problem like being lost in translation over. Oh, not really, I don't think. Do you think we've ever. No, we've been pretty lucky, haven't we? Most people. Touch wood. Yeah. No, we have been really lucky. So would you say. But would you say, for example, that the audience in Australia is different than the audience here in London or. Oh, well, we're yet to find out what. So we've got a festival in Brisbane in the Noosa Festival. So. Yes, so we're doing that in. That's your daboot in Australia. Yes, yes, yes. It's from my. My home state, but it will be the first time I will be performing with these girls. Yes, we'll let you know. We'll let you know how it goes out. Best luck. I'm very excited, though. Okay, fantastic. So shall we listen to some of your. The latest song from your AP then? Yeah, let's listen to the prayer. Yeah. This is one of our favorite ones, isn't it? Yeah. Okay, so let's see. Let's listen to the prayer cover from Celine Dion and Bocell. I pray you'll be our eyes and watch us where we go and help, Help us to be wise in times when we don't know. Let this be our prayer when we lose our way. Lead us to a place Guide us with your grace To a place where we'll be satisfied. When shadows fill our day Lead us to a place Guide us with your grace Give us face oh we. Storm. Another soldier Let this be our prayer Let this be our prayer Just like every tomb Just like every child need to find our place Guide us with your grace Give us. And that was the prayer from the Ida upcoming EP on Spotify. So a big thanks to our guest Georgie and Laura from the Ida Girls for this great chat and beautiful music played together today. If you have any questions that you would like to ask to our quest, our guest or nomination for our future Classical Woman awards, please email presenteromensradiostation.com or tweet us@womensradiostation for a chance to win two tickets at our concert of the finalist of the future Classic Woman Awards. If you wanted to listen to it again or catch up to our previous program, you can head to my presenter page, Stefania Passamonte, Future Classic woman awards on womensradiostation.com and you can listen to this episode live every day, 10am and 10pm London time. So thank you again, Georgia and Laura for being with us. Thank you so much and good luck with all your concerts and your upcoming ep. Thank you for listening. Foreign. Voice of Women worldwide. 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